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ok so i am going to be ordering this kit http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=227

now i have seen a build thread or two on this , but i still have a few questions . first is , on the page where you make the selections such as halos , sealing glue , bulbs , projector and such , the first selection is ballasts , i see the regular one which is morimoto 3five , and the second is oem denso w/AMP conversion (+$90.00) , what is that second thing , if it in any way increases performance of the lights or anything i do want it , but if its nothing special im not going waste the money , also i kind of like the halo look , and was wondering , are these things durable , easy to mount WELL , because if not i also wont waste the money . any info is appreciated , i currently have hids in stock housings , and i now see why it is such a no no , most of the time i want to smash the things myself , i drove in my girlfriends car while moving and she was behind me in mine and it was wayy too bright , and they dont even provide adequate light output to let me see where im driving .
 

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First off, you are making a great decision to retrofit some projectors into your housings. [thumb]

Getting the proper projector for HIDs makes a world of difference.

Onto your questions...

1) Just go with the 3five Ballast
(All the OEM Denso /AMP Conversion is to make an OEM HID ballast work with your aftermarket HID kit)

2) I wouldn't recommend the Halos. Don't get me wrong, TRS sells high quality Halos, but unless you mount them properly, you risk them coming apart inside the housing, in turn, having to open up the housing to fix them.

One thing I will suggest...

Go for the 5000k bulb because the 4300k bulb for that kit has a yellowish cut-off whereas the 5000k bulb has a purple cut-off and pure white light. For what you sacrifice in Lumens (higher K rating = less light output) you will gain in color (5000k = Pure White).

One last thing... for $10 you should pick up some of the resealing glue. Sometimes its a pain in the ass to get the old sealant to seal, so just get some new stuff.

Good luck, and if you have any problems, questions, concerns just post them up and I can help you out.

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First off, you are making a great decision to retrofit some projectors into your housings. [thumb]

Getting the proper projector for HIDs makes a world of difference.

Onto your questions...

1) Just go with the 3five Ballast
(All the OEM Denso /AMP Conversion is to make an OEM HID ballast work with your aftermarket HID kit)

2) I wouldn't recommend the Halos. Don't get me wrong, TRS sells high quality Halos, but unless you mount them properly, you risk them coming apart inside the housing, in turn, having to open up the housing to fix them.

One thing I will suggest...

Go for the 5000k bulb because the 4300k bulb for that kit has a yellowish cut-off whereas the 5000k bulb has a purple cut-off and pure white light. For what you sacrifice in Lumens (higher K rating = less light output) you will gain in color (5000k = Pure White).

One last thing... for $10 you should pick up some of the resealing glue. Sometimes its a pain in the ass to get the old sealant to seal, so just get some new stuff.

Good luck, and if you have any problems, questions, concerns just post them up and I can help you out.

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perfect info dude , exactly what i was looking for , but i would like to ask , what are the xb35 bulbs ? and what would the output of the 6000k bulbs be like?
 

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perfect info dude , exactly what i was looking for , but i would like to ask , what are the xb35 bulbs ? and what would the output of the 6000k bulbs be like?
The XB series bulbs are one step UP from the Morimoto 3five bulbs. They run a little brighter (not noticeable to human eye) and run a cooler temperature.

To answer your 6000k question, do you live in an area that is mostly lit (metropolitan) or in an area where you use the high beams a lot (country)?

For city driving 6000k will be fine, but if you use your highbeams a lot, you should stick with the 4300k-5000k bulbs.

Personally, I would go with the D2S kit instead of the H1.

The biggest reason why... BULB SELECTION. You will get a lot better light output going with an OEM HID Bulb. The H1's are limited to certain bulbs while the D2S allows you to get some high quality bulbs.

The downside... price. You pay quite a bit more to go the D2S route, with an OEM HID Bulb. Is it worth it? To me... definitely.

The only HID bulb I run... Osram Xenarc CBI 66240. I have them in my A4 and my SVT. Best bulb on the market hands down. The light output of 4300k (highest light output) while having a pure white light (5000k).
 

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also , just wanted to ask , would this kit fit ?
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=205

or would it be to big or something
Missed this when I was writing previous post...

The FX-R kit is an amazing kit. They are definitely not too big, the MK1 housing is big enough to run a small circus in so you definitely have room.

I had them installed on my SVT before I bought my Hella Euro-Spec HIDs.

The setup I used to have...
Bi-Xenon FX-R Stage IV
Ballasts - Denso Slim Ballasts
Bulbs - Osram Xenarc CBI
Shrouds - E55-R
Relay - H4

If you want have the money to spend on the FX-R Stage IV... you won't be disappointed.[thumb]
 

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pros / cons between the d2s , and fxr , ?if you dont mind me asking , also whats the diff between fxr stage 3 and stage 4?
 

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First off, the FX-R IS a D2S bulb projector.

Where there is a difference, is between the Morimoto Minis. (H1 vs. D2S)
The only difference is the bulb. One uses an H1 bulb and the other uses a D2S bulb.

Which bulb is better??? D2S

So the real question is... Pros/Cons of FX-R and Morimoto Mini's

FX-R
Pros - Perfect Cut-Off, Color-Modded, Impressive Hi-Beam Output
Cons - Expensive, Large (not to worry in your case)

Mini's
Pros - Great quality for the price, perfect for retrofitting, small in size
Cons - Beam Pattern weaker than FX-R, Cutoff not as crisp as FX-R

Difference between Stage 3 and Stage 4?
Ballast Selection

Stage 3 offers aftermarket ballasts.
Stage 4 offers OEM Style ballasts.

You get what you pay for... not saying there is anything wrong with any of the Morimoto products because A LOT of people run them and love them.

Personally, I run OEM setups and they definitely outperform anything aftermarket that I have seen. I would much rather spend the extra money to have the highest quality lighting, plus it helps since I live in the middle of nowhere and need all the light I can get.
 

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Maybe ill swing for the stage 3 then upgrade in a few months , the main thing I want is the best cutoff possible , and then color second , I can just buy better ballasts later right?
 

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i really dont know , lol i want that sweet cutoff , i guess its not that bad of a pric jump between d2s and the fxr 3 , especially after upgraded bulbs n stuff
 

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Maybe ill swing for the stage 3 then upgrade in a few months , the main thing I want is the best cutoff possible , and then color second , I can just buy better ballasts later right?
To be honest, if you are considering "upgrading later" you should just wait, save up a little more and get the FX-R Stage 4 with Denso Slims and Osram Xenarc CBI's.

Trust me... you will not be disappointed.
 

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To be honest, if you are considering "upgrading later" you should just wait, save up a little more and get the FX-R Stage 4 with Denso Slims and Osram Xenarc CBI's.

Trust me... you will not be disappointed.
Ballasts: 1) Morimoto 3Five 35w
Bulbs: Morimoto 3Five 5000K D2S
Halos: No Thanks
Projectors: LHD (North American Standard)
Re-sealing Glue: Yes please
Shrouds: Gatling Gun
relay:9007/9004

how thats for the order , lol i hope thats the right relay for me
 

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Ballasts: 1) Morimoto 3Five 35w
Bulbs: Morimoto 3Five 5000K D2S
Halos: No Thanks
Projectors: LHD (North American Standard)
Re-sealing Glue: Yes please
Shrouds: Gatling Gun
relay:9007/9004

how thats for the order , lol i hope thats the right relay for me
That is the WRONG relay... you need an H4 relay.
 

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lol thanks , how come i need an h4 , my bulbs are 9007 .? sorry just asking , im not too knowledgable in this
Sorry Sam, you are correct. You have 9007 bulbs.

I thought you had a 2000-2004 Focus, they have the H4 Bulbs.
 
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