Good info on the kits its nice to see them side by side.
(AVL. Turbo Kits) XIOS vs. Top Speed vs. CFM vs. FocusPower
Alrighty, This thread is about only the differences in the different available turbo's kits or (partial kits) out there... Pro's and Cons can be discussed but please lets not get off topic... i would like all the new people in the comm, or those that would rather not spend hours searching for these...
Ok, basically here is what i see...
Full Kits
Top Speed
Price: $4299 for both?
Website: http://www.topspeedperformance.net/
Forum: http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=167252&page=2 (informative imho)
http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=172016 (Wont tell you much yet.. im hoping itll change by page...9-10)
Tuning: included (if i read it correctly on the website)
Note* does not include Fuel Management
Advertised Performance Gains:
Zetec only ive seen:
10psi: 240Horsepower and 243 Torque
12psi: 265 Horsepower and 265 Torque
Any dyno of SVT?
*both on 93 octane
XIOS Motorworks
Price: (SVT)4249 or 4449(with tune) or (ZETEC) 2995-3495
Website: http://xiosmotorworks.com/
Forum: errr its out there... Tom made an informative suggestion when he installed and tuned one i remember that forum, never saw the numbers he put out...
Tuning: included for $200
Note* Zetec - (except for MAF, Injectors, Software* and tools)
SVT is FULL i believe...
Advertised Performance Gains:
SVT
10.5psi: 278 Horsepower and 236 Torque
12.5psi: 295 Horsepower and 266 Torque
*both on 91 octane
ZETEC
8.5psi: 183 Horsepower and 204 Torque
11psi: 205 Horsepower and 234 Torque
DIY Kits
Focus-Power
Price: 1475
Website: ... just ask Tom if you have questions
Forum Link: http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=165689
Tuning: Find your own after you find your parts. or he can remote tune for 450
Included:
SPA Cast Manifold
Intercooler to maintain cooling 300HP
2.5 Inch Downpipe
Waste gate downpipe
Piping from turbo to intercooler
Piping from intercooler to MAF
3 inch MAF tube
Piping from MAF tube to throttle body
extra would be
Hoses & Clamps
Turbo & Waste gate (external only)
Oil psi hose & drain back hose and fittings
Tune ( I can remote tune it for 450.00)
Injectors
Bolts , washers
Oil pan with turbo drain back ( I may offer this as well exchange for 40.00 ) - i like this idea
MAFia
FOR THE REST OF THE TURBO PARTS NECESSARY TO TURBO AND THE BREAKDOWN!
To add on to TGT partial kit... here are some links of what you might need to help complete it,
Turbonetics Turbo, Ball Brg., T3-Spr 60, F1 49,.48 - 995 dollars
http://www.turboneticsparts.com/?gcl...FRCiQQodehwNjQ
Injectors - Siemens Deka 60lb/hr - 200
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=870
DiabloSport MAFia - 172
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=893
WasteGate - TIAL 38mm - 240
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...OD&ProdID=1442
Spark Plugs - AZFS22C - 12
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=371
180Degree Therm - 17
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...PROD&ProdID=35
Oil Pan + Return lines, bolts, hose clamps, etc ~ 100 bucks
Tune ~450
Thats totaling for brand new parts listed above and Toms Partial Kit,
~$3661
Then you have J&S ~650 for gauge and system
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...arch=GO&Page=1
Wideband Gauge ~ 350
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...OD&ProdID=1372
Boost Gauge ~ 50
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=912
Pillar Pod - 60
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=258
Total ~1110 Dollars for gauges and Safety with the Knock Retard Sensor...
Grand Total of ABOUT
$4771
C-F-M
Price: 990
Website: http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1831
Forum Link: http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=143224
Included:
SPA Turbo 5250 turbocharger ( .48 or .63 hot housing ) Retails $699.00SPA Turbo 35mm MCS wastegate ( dual stage boost controller ) Retails $119.00SPA Turbo TM-FD-01 Ford Focus Zetec 1.8L / 2.0L 16 valve T3 manifold Retails $399.00SPA Turbo 2 bolt wastegate flange ( to fab your dump tube ) SPA Turbo 4 bolt 3" round downpipe flange ( to fab your downpipe )SPA Turbo gasket set ( oil feed , oil return , downpipe & turbocharger ) SPA Turbo studs & nuts ( downpipe , turbocharger & wastegate )
This turbo DIY kit is still being worked on as FAST TUNER has said in the forum link - he is also the tuner for CFM and is a good rep to go to .. as well as william from CFM for obvious reasons.
Alright, to add onto the CFM DIY kit with the NEWEST news from CFM!
the addition of the DOWNPIPE Almost makes this complete.
"Like some of you guys already know we have this Spa DIY turbo kit on sale for $990.00
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...odID=1831&HS=1
This kit includes
SPA Turbo 5250 turbocharger ( .48 or .63 hot housing )
SPA Turbo 35mm MCS wastegate ( dual stage boost controller )
Turbo TM-FD-01 Ford Focus Zetec 1.8L / 2.0L 16 valve T3 manifold SPA Turbo gasket set ( oil feed , oil return , downpipe & turbocharger )
SPA Turbo studs & nuts (downpipe , turbocharger & wastegate )
We know is not easy find a good fabricator, so we decide to make our downpipe for this DIY kit. For just $349.95 without coating or $399.95 coated.
http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/a...5&d=1221112440
This downpipe is a direct bolt-on for the SPA DIY Turbo kit with SVT exhaust. The size of the downpipe is 2 1/2 and will just work with the Spa Turbo and Spa wastegate. Will work with A/C and stock fans."
thats 1340-1390 so far!
Intercooler - 100-300 dollars from ebay and CFM
Filter - 30 dollars? im not sure... sorry...
some piping ... i am going to say 100 dollars...you can get the piping from the intercooler to the TB from TOM (his charge piping is about 75 dollars?) tom correct me if im wrong... and the 25 other dollars can go to the U bend for the other side... - 100
Injectors - Siemens Deka 60lb/hr - 200
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=870
DiabloSport MAFia - 172
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=893
Spark Plugs - AZFS22C - 12
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=371
180Degree Therm - 17
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...PROD&ProdID=35
Oil Pan + Return lines, bolts, hose clamps, etc ~ 100 bucks
Tune ~450 - from tom i believe...
Blow off valve - 150-425 dollars (i forgot this in the Tom's Partial Kit)
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?PageAction=PRODSEARCH&txtSearch=blow+off+valve&btnSearch=GO&Page=1
So far thats 1331-1606 dollars for parts in additions to the DIY kit
For gauges and J&S stuff...
Then you have J&S ~650 for gauge and system
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...arch=GO&Page=1
Wideband Gauge ~ 350
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...OD&ProdID=1372
Boost Gauge ~ 50
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=912
Pillar Pod - 60
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=258
Total ~1110 Dollars for gauges and Safety with the Knock Retard Sensor...
Grand Total of ABOUT
1340-1390 + 1110 + 1331-1606
so... ranging $3961 - $4106
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ONE:::::
Now did i make any mistakes or have any misinformation? I would also like for someone to put together a basic list of prices to combine with the DIY kits that we could all use, one with the GT28RS, the SPA Turbo, and the T3 S60 STGIII for TGT (Focus-Power) as well as intercooler and other things for the CFM's... i think this should help... im just tired... DOES THIS HELP ANYONE?!?!??!?!? SUGGESTIONS, differences from all of you who have these kits and would like to add things either not stated on the website's or things you learned the hard way... something INFORMATIVE.... =D
hmmmm i think everyone should know a clutch/flywheel/lsd is necessary with all this, as well as probably a Wideband, Pyrometer, Boost, B-A-P, and J&S Knock Retard are good ideas.... just fyi because im fairly positive none of these include this stuff except the xios that gives you just a boost gauge for the zetec...
alright! zoom zoom[driving] time to fire it up! [gunfire]
Ok, basically here is what i see...
Full Kits
Top Speed
Price: $4299 for both?
Website: http://www.topspeedperformance.net/
Forum: http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=167252&page=2 (informative imho)
http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=172016 (Wont tell you much yet.. im hoping itll change by page...9-10)
Tuning: included (if i read it correctly on the website)
Note* does not include Fuel Management
Advertised Performance Gains:
Zetec only ive seen:
10psi: 240Horsepower and 243 Torque
12psi: 265 Horsepower and 265 Torque
Any dyno of SVT?
*both on 93 octane
XIOS Motorworks
Price: (SVT)4249 or 4449(with tune) or (ZETEC) 2995-3495
Website: http://xiosmotorworks.com/
Forum: errr its out there... Tom made an informative suggestion when he installed and tuned one i remember that forum, never saw the numbers he put out...
Tuning: included for $200
Note* Zetec - (except for MAF, Injectors, Software* and tools)
SVT is FULL i believe...
Advertised Performance Gains:
SVT
10.5psi: 278 Horsepower and 236 Torque
12.5psi: 295 Horsepower and 266 Torque
*both on 91 octane
ZETEC
8.5psi: 183 Horsepower and 204 Torque
11psi: 205 Horsepower and 234 Torque
DIY Kits
Focus-Power
Price: 1475
Website: ... just ask Tom if you have questions
Forum Link: http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=165689
Tuning: Find your own after you find your parts. or he can remote tune for 450
Included:
SPA Cast Manifold
Intercooler to maintain cooling 300HP
2.5 Inch Downpipe
Waste gate downpipe
Piping from turbo to intercooler
Piping from intercooler to MAF
3 inch MAF tube
Piping from MAF tube to throttle body
extra would be
Hoses & Clamps
Turbo & Waste gate (external only)
Oil psi hose & drain back hose and fittings
Tune ( I can remote tune it for 450.00)
Injectors
Bolts , washers
Oil pan with turbo drain back ( I may offer this as well exchange for 40.00 ) - i like this idea
MAFia
FOR THE REST OF THE TURBO PARTS NECESSARY TO TURBO AND THE BREAKDOWN!
To add on to TGT partial kit... here are some links of what you might need to help complete it,
Turbonetics Turbo, Ball Brg., T3-Spr 60, F1 49,.48 - 995 dollars
http://www.turboneticsparts.com/?gcl...FRCiQQodehwNjQ
Injectors - Siemens Deka 60lb/hr - 200
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=870
DiabloSport MAFia - 172
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=893
WasteGate - TIAL 38mm - 240
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...OD&ProdID=1442
Spark Plugs - AZFS22C - 12
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=371
180Degree Therm - 17
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...PROD&ProdID=35
Oil Pan + Return lines, bolts, hose clamps, etc ~ 100 bucks
Tune ~450
Thats totaling for brand new parts listed above and Toms Partial Kit,
~$3661
Then you have J&S ~650 for gauge and system
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...arch=GO&Page=1
Wideband Gauge ~ 350
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...OD&ProdID=1372
Boost Gauge ~ 50
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=912
Pillar Pod - 60
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=258
Total ~1110 Dollars for gauges and Safety with the Knock Retard Sensor...
Grand Total of ABOUT
$4771
C-F-M
Price: 990
Website: http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1831
Forum Link: http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=143224
Included:
SPA Turbo 5250 turbocharger ( .48 or .63 hot housing ) Retails $699.00SPA Turbo 35mm MCS wastegate ( dual stage boost controller ) Retails $119.00SPA Turbo TM-FD-01 Ford Focus Zetec 1.8L / 2.0L 16 valve T3 manifold Retails $399.00SPA Turbo 2 bolt wastegate flange ( to fab your dump tube ) SPA Turbo 4 bolt 3" round downpipe flange ( to fab your downpipe )SPA Turbo gasket set ( oil feed , oil return , downpipe & turbocharger ) SPA Turbo studs & nuts ( downpipe , turbocharger & wastegate )
This turbo DIY kit is still being worked on as FAST TUNER has said in the forum link - he is also the tuner for CFM and is a good rep to go to .. as well as william from CFM for obvious reasons.
Alright, to add onto the CFM DIY kit with the NEWEST news from CFM!
the addition of the DOWNPIPE Almost makes this complete.
"Like some of you guys already know we have this Spa DIY turbo kit on sale for $990.00
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...odID=1831&HS=1
This kit includes
SPA Turbo 5250 turbocharger ( .48 or .63 hot housing )
SPA Turbo 35mm MCS wastegate ( dual stage boost controller )
Turbo TM-FD-01 Ford Focus Zetec 1.8L / 2.0L 16 valve T3 manifold SPA Turbo gasket set ( oil feed , oil return , downpipe & turbocharger )
SPA Turbo studs & nuts (downpipe , turbocharger & wastegate )
We know is not easy find a good fabricator, so we decide to make our downpipe for this DIY kit. For just $349.95 without coating or $399.95 coated.
http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/a...5&d=1221112440
This downpipe is a direct bolt-on for the SPA DIY Turbo kit with SVT exhaust. The size of the downpipe is 2 1/2 and will just work with the Spa Turbo and Spa wastegate. Will work with A/C and stock fans."
thats 1340-1390 so far!
Intercooler - 100-300 dollars from ebay and CFM
Filter - 30 dollars? im not sure... sorry...
some piping ... i am going to say 100 dollars...you can get the piping from the intercooler to the TB from TOM (his charge piping is about 75 dollars?) tom correct me if im wrong... and the 25 other dollars can go to the U bend for the other side... - 100
Injectors - Siemens Deka 60lb/hr - 200
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=870
DiabloSport MAFia - 172
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=893
Spark Plugs - AZFS22C - 12
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=371
180Degree Therm - 17
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...PROD&ProdID=35
Oil Pan + Return lines, bolts, hose clamps, etc ~ 100 bucks
Tune ~450 - from tom i believe...
Blow off valve - 150-425 dollars (i forgot this in the Tom's Partial Kit)
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?PageAction=PRODSEARCH&txtSearch=blow+off+valve&btnSearch=GO&Page=1
So far thats 1331-1606 dollars for parts in additions to the DIY kit
For gauges and J&S stuff...
Then you have J&S ~650 for gauge and system
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...arch=GO&Page=1
Wideband Gauge ~ 350
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...OD&ProdID=1372
Boost Gauge ~ 50
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=912
Pillar Pod - 60
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=258
Total ~1110 Dollars for gauges and Safety with the Knock Retard Sensor...
Grand Total of ABOUT
1340-1390 + 1110 + 1331-1606
so... ranging $3961 - $4106
::::
ONE:::::Now did i make any mistakes or have any misinformation? I would also like for someone to put together a basic list of prices to combine with the DIY kits that we could all use, one with the GT28RS, the SPA Turbo, and the T3 S60 STGIII for TGT (Focus-Power) as well as intercooler and other things for the CFM's... i think this should help... im just tired... DOES THIS HELP ANYONE?!?!??!?!? SUGGESTIONS, differences from all of you who have these kits and would like to add things either not stated on the website's or things you learned the hard way... something INFORMATIVE.... =D
hmmmm i think everyone should know a clutch/flywheel/lsd is necessary with all this, as well as probably a Wideband, Pyrometer, Boost, B-A-P, and J&S Knock Retard are good ideas.... just fyi because im fairly positive none of these include this stuff except the xios that gives you just a boost gauge for the zetec...
alright! zoom zoom[driving] time to fire it up! [gunfire]
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