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Alrighty, This thread is about only the differences in the different available turbo's kits or (partial kits) out there... Pro's and Cons can be discussed but please lets not get off topic... i would like all the new people in the comm, or those that would rather not spend hours searching for these...

Ok, basically here is what i see...

Full Kits

Top Speed
Price: $4299 for both?
Website: http://www.topspeedperformance.net/
Forum: http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=167252&page=2 (informative imho)
http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=172016 (Wont tell you much yet.. im hoping itll change by page...9-10)
Tuning: included (if i read it correctly on the website)
Note* does not include Fuel Management
Advertised Performance Gains:
Zetec only ive seen:
10psi: 240Horsepower and 243 Torque
12psi: 265 Horsepower and 265 Torque
Any dyno of SVT?
*both on 93 octane

XIOS Motorworks
Price: (SVT)4249 or 4449(with tune) or (ZETEC) 2995-3495
Website: http://xiosmotorworks.com/
Forum: errr its out there... Tom made an informative suggestion when he installed and tuned one i remember that forum, never saw the numbers he put out...
Tuning: included for $200
Note* Zetec - (except for MAF, Injectors, Software* and tools)
SVT is FULL i believe...
Advertised Performance Gains:
SVT
10.5psi: 278 Horsepower and 236 Torque
12.5psi: 295 Horsepower and 266 Torque
*both on 91 octane
ZETEC
8.5psi: 183 Horsepower and 204 Torque
11psi: 205 Horsepower and 234 Torque


DIY Kits

Focus-Power
Price: 1475
Website: ... just ask Tom if you have questions
Forum Link: http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=165689
Tuning: Find your own after you find your parts. or he can remote tune for 450
Included:
SPA Cast Manifold
Intercooler to maintain cooling 300HP
2.5 Inch Downpipe
Waste gate downpipe
Piping from turbo to intercooler
Piping from intercooler to MAF
3 inch MAF tube
Piping from MAF tube to throttle body

extra would be

Hoses & Clamps
Turbo & Waste gate (external only)
Oil psi hose & drain back hose and fittings
Tune ( I can remote tune it for 450.00)
Injectors
Bolts , washers
Oil pan with turbo drain back ( I may offer this as well exchange for 40.00 ) - i like this idea
MAFia

FOR THE REST OF THE TURBO PARTS NECESSARY TO TURBO AND THE BREAKDOWN!

To add on to TGT partial kit... here are some links of what you might need to help complete it,

Turbonetics Turbo, Ball Brg., T3-Spr 60, F1 49,.48 - 995 dollars
http://www.turboneticsparts.com/?gcl...FRCiQQodehwNjQ

Injectors - Siemens Deka 60lb/hr - 200
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=870

DiabloSport MAFia - 172
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=893

WasteGate - TIAL 38mm - 240
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...OD&ProdID=1442

Spark Plugs - AZFS22C - 12
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=371

180Degree Therm - 17
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...PROD&ProdID=35

Oil Pan + Return lines, bolts, hose clamps, etc ~ 100 bucks

Tune ~450

Thats totaling for brand new parts listed above and Toms Partial Kit,
~$3661

Then you have J&S ~650 for gauge and system
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...arch=GO&Page=1

Wideband Gauge ~ 350
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...OD&ProdID=1372

Boost Gauge ~ 50
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=912

Pillar Pod - 60
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=258

Total ~1110 Dollars for gauges and Safety with the Knock Retard Sensor...

Grand Total of ABOUT

$4771


C-F-M
Price: 990
Website: http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1831
Forum Link: http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=143224
Included:
SPA Turbo 5250 turbocharger ( .48 or .63 hot housing ) Retails $699.00SPA Turbo 35mm MCS wastegate ( dual stage boost controller ) Retails $119.00SPA Turbo TM-FD-01 Ford Focus Zetec 1.8L / 2.0L 16 valve T3 manifold Retails $399.00SPA Turbo 2 bolt wastegate flange ( to fab your dump tube ) SPA Turbo 4 bolt 3" round downpipe flange ( to fab your downpipe )SPA Turbo gasket set ( oil feed , oil return , downpipe & turbocharger ) SPA Turbo studs & nuts ( downpipe , turbocharger & wastegate )

This turbo DIY kit is still being worked on as FAST TUNER has said in the forum link - he is also the tuner for CFM and is a good rep to go to .. as well as william from CFM for obvious reasons.

Alright, to add onto the CFM DIY kit with the NEWEST news from CFM!

the addition of the DOWNPIPE Almost makes this complete.

"Like some of you guys already know we have this Spa DIY turbo kit on sale for $990.00

http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...odID=1831&HS=1

This kit includes
SPA Turbo 5250 turbocharger ( .48 or .63 hot housing )
SPA Turbo 35mm MCS wastegate ( dual stage boost controller )
Turbo TM-FD-01 Ford Focus Zetec 1.8L / 2.0L 16 valve T3 manifold SPA Turbo gasket set ( oil feed , oil return , downpipe & turbocharger )
SPA Turbo studs & nuts (downpipe , turbocharger & wastegate )

We know is not easy find a good fabricator, so we decide to make our downpipe for this DIY kit. For just $349.95 without coating or $399.95 coated.

http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/a...5&d=1221112440

This downpipe is a direct bolt-on for the SPA DIY Turbo kit with SVT exhaust. The size of the downpipe is 2 1/2 and will just work with the Spa Turbo and Spa wastegate. Will work with A/C and stock fans."

thats 1340-1390 so far!

Intercooler - 100-300 dollars from ebay and CFM

Filter - 30 dollars? im not sure... sorry...

some piping ... i am going to say 100 dollars...you can get the piping from the intercooler to the TB from TOM (his charge piping is about 75 dollars?) tom correct me if im wrong... and the 25 other dollars can go to the U bend for the other side... - 100

Injectors - Siemens Deka 60lb/hr - 200
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=870

DiabloSport MAFia - 172
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=893

Spark Plugs - AZFS22C - 12
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=371

180Degree Therm - 17
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...PROD&ProdID=35

Oil Pan + Return lines, bolts, hose clamps, etc ~ 100 bucks

Tune ~450 - from tom i believe...

Blow off valve - 150-425 dollars (i forgot this in the Tom's Partial Kit)
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?PageAction=PRODSEARCH&txtSearch=blow+off+valve&btnSearch=GO&Page=1

So far thats 1331-1606 dollars for parts in additions to the DIY kit

For gauges and J&S stuff...

Then you have J&S ~650 for gauge and system
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...arch=GO&Page=1

Wideband Gauge ~ 350
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...OD&ProdID=1372

Boost Gauge ~ 50
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=912

Pillar Pod - 60
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=258

Total ~1110 Dollars for gauges and Safety with the Knock Retard Sensor...

Grand Total of ABOUT

1340-1390 + 1110 + 1331-1606

so... ranging $3961 - $4106

:::::DONE:::::

Now did i make any mistakes or have any misinformation? I would also like for someone to put together a basic list of prices to combine with the DIY kits that we could all use, one with the GT28RS, the SPA Turbo, and the T3 S60 STGIII for TGT (Focus-Power) as well as intercooler and other things for the CFM's... i think this should help... im just tired... DOES THIS HELP ANYONE?!?!??!?!? SUGGESTIONS, differences from all of you who have these kits and would like to add things either not stated on the website's or things you learned the hard way... something INFORMATIVE.... =D

hmmmm i think everyone should know a clutch/flywheel/lsd is necessary with all this, as well as probably a Wideband, Pyrometer, Boost, B-A-P, and J&S Knock Retard are good ideas.... just fyi because im fairly positive none of these include this stuff except the xios that gives you just a boost gauge for the zetec...

alright! zoom zoom[driving] time to fire it up! [gunfire]
 

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Good info on the kits its nice to see them side by side.
 

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LETS NOT FILL THIS THREAD WITH BS PLEASE

Our site is under a complete redesign, so there is a lack of info on our kit up there.

COMMERCIAL LINK REMOVED

If you have any questions feel free to contact me.
 

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Topseed you need to become a sponsor and pay just like everyone else to be here if he is going to promote his kit and help support FF , that being said I will start with the top speed kit as it is first in the list

Top speed kit
Pros , Pricing

Cons
Over engineered Turbo manifold
You have to replace the stock fans with after market
To many bends in the psi piping
MAF is a little close to the TB bend
Looks (could be wrong) to have to relocate the Batt
Turbo in kit dynoed is a little big for the Avg Foci owner (easy to change)
Not enough tuning time with the Focus to release tuning (easy to get tuning tho)
I understand this is there first atemp on the Focus and with a few things changed would be a competitive kit

Xios (ZX3)
Pros ,none

Cons
In my opinion wouldnt do this kit if it was given to me just to many issues and dont like turbos placed behind the engine for to many reasons to go into

Xios (SVT)
Pros, spools quick and could make a good street kit
Complete kit

Cons
Over engineered manifold
No blowthrough
You have to replace the stock fans with aftermarket
Piping from turbo roughted EXTREMELY close to turbo and down pipe causing excessive heat in enitial psi pipe to IC
Dont like internal waste gates

Focus-power and C-F-M will be next

Tom
 

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THANK YOU and PERFECT TOM!

Im really looking forward to this!

I hope this helps!
 

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Top Speed, when can we expect a dyno or some picture of an SVT? Thank you!
 

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woa awesome! you guys are making the intercooler piping as well yes?
 

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Discussion Starter #9 (Edited)
To add on to TGT partial kit... here are some links of what you might need to help complete it,

Turbonetics Turbo, Ball Brg., T3-Spr 60, F1 49,.48 - 995 dollars
http://www.turboneticsparts.com/?gclid=CJzjrvzd05UCFRCiQQodehwNjQ

Injectors - Siemens Deka 60lb/hr - 200
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=870

DiabloSport MAFia - 172
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=893

WasteGate - TIAL 38mm - 240
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1442

Spark Plugs - AZFS22C - 12
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=371

180Degree Therm - 17
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=35

Oil Pan + Return lines, bolts, hose clamps, etc ~ 100 bucks

Tune ~450

Thats totaling for brand new parts listed above and Toms Partial Kit,
~$3661

Then you have J&S ~650 for gauge and system
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?PageAction=PRODSEARCH&txtSearch=J&S&btnSearch=GO&Page=1

Wideband Gauge ~ 350
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1372

Boost Gauge ~ 50
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=912

Pillar Pod - 60
http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=258

Total ~1110 Dollars for gauges and Safety with the Knock Retard Sensor...

Grand Total of ABOUT

$4771

I think i covered everything?

In all honesty, this is not a bad deal so far, good parts, everything covered... yup.
 

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where do you get 100 dolars for a return line on the turbo maybe 50 that how much i spent and its all -10 An fitting
 

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where do you get 100 dolars for a return line on the turbo maybe 50 that how much i spent and its all -10 An fitting
huh? i meant for all the miscellaenous... not just return line...

yeah, those prices are simply those where someone can get all parts online

did i forget anything?, ill try to do one on CFM, but im not sure because of the downpipe, im not sure how much they will make it cost, or if it will be included...
 

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Fast Tuner, how much will the downpipe cost do you think? and Will it be a part of your DIY kit? Trying to get an estimation for everyone...
 

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hmmm would we be able to get an estimated ETA from CFM or TOM on possible completion dates?
 

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awesome i cant wait to see the pictures and everything! =D very exciting news!
 

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I dont see how a manifold can be over-engineered. The only con to over-engineering is pricing, and its not really an issue with the top speed kit because its relatively cheap.

Its not the end of the world to replace the stock fans to get that extra HP?

I mean is there some gap in my logic here? Your input is welcomed Tom im just trying to understand what you mean here, not flaming.
 

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We have gone and gone and gone over this already , You do what ever works for you in your Focus , If the top speed kit is it then be happy and install it , in the end it comes down to the guy wanting a kit has to make the choise

I gave my thoughts of the kit and stand behind them not from opinions like everyone else that has talked about these kits but from being there and doing it , Building 1 turbo kit for a car does not make a good kit , there has to be testing and dyno time and more testing and this hasent been done with most kits out there ,

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A wise man once said, You dont buy parts to fit a turbokit, you build a turbokit to fit the car.

That said, I'm not liking the current options... But my desires for my build are probably far different from most users'.
 
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