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Ok, we know where this is going. I say some things and post lots of pics.

I had a Red '02 ZX3 back in '02. Bone stock, de-badged, helicopter sticker on the rear glass. Loved it. It got traded in on a Ranger in '04 because I thought I needed a truck. Really missed it a lot, I was surprised at how many people associated me with that vehicle. No pics (sigh).

Fast forward to Feb '13. I went and bought this.


I was happy with it. Everything was fine for a week, but then I saw two brand new Ti's on their lot. Then at another dealership I saw this -


If you want to jump to the beginning of when I got serious with the Ti build then jump to post #248. Ultimately I took it to this point before buying my ST, and now I'm done with modifying it and 'Focus'ing on the ST.

*Shots courtesy of Jdubhack*




If you want to jump to the ST, the first pic starts at post #495 though the actual build has yet to occur.

First official ST pic-


Or you can jump to #603 for the final GiGi pic with the FiST-


And of course if you're just bored and interested in my ramble (at least the parts that I haven't already edited out), then start here and kill a few minutes!
 

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Ok, my thoughts...

I am really not digging the black wheels. Just doesn't strike me on the gray car. I think it looks better with the silver. I have not seen anyone do it, but what about blacking out just the center portion of the spokes? That might look pretty neat.

And on the rear tails, I like the shape change with the dip, but for final application I really think it would look best body color.
 

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Ok, my thoughts...

I am really not digging the black wheels. Just doesn't strike me on the gray car. I think it looks better with the silver. I have not seen anyone do it, but what about blacking out just the center portion of the spokes? That might look pretty neat.

And on the rear tails, I like the shape change with the dip, but for final application I really think it would look best body color.
I pretty much agree with you on the wheels, though I need to see the monochrome and red calipers before changing them up. I have some ideas...[idea]

I think you will like the tails on completion. That update will occur in 3-4 weeks as my schedule is about to get busy.

Thanks for the input![thumb]
 

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Good choice in color[8D], i think color matched wheels would look great on the car,[:)]
 

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My only question, and this isn't meant to be rude or mean, but why bother with the MS3 rear motor mount on a DD? Not like you're slamming the gears with the pedal to the metal and getting that engine to rock back and forth... are you? And even then that really only applies to the manual Ti.

Other than that, I think you have some cool ideas aesthetically, of course the eyelids and rear light "lids" should be body color, but the rear shape does look really cool. Black wheels are meh to me, but this is your car not mine, so if you like it you should keep it.
 

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Good choice in color[8D], i think color matched wheels would look great on the car,[:)]
The color is one of the best, imho. Maybe the Race Red would have swayed me (Power Surge), but it wasn't offered in the Ti. SGM, for use, cleanliness appearance, and scratch/swirl hiding- I don't think it can be beat. And I can't tell for sure, but if I am seeing your avatar correctly then I will need to choose a new RACING STRIPE! I must think now.[idea]


My only question, and this isn't meant to be rude or mean, but why bother with the MS3 rear motor mount on a DD? Not like you're slamming the gears with the pedal to the metal and getting that engine to rock back and forth... are you? And even then that really only applies to the manual Ti.

Other than that, I think you have some cool ideas aesthetically, of course the eyelids and rear light "lids" should be body color, but the rear shape does look really cool. Black wheels are meh to me, but this is your car not mine, so if you like it you should keep it.
Your post didn't come off wrong, constructive criticism can help me as many things are just concepts in my head. I wanted the mount to help firm up the shifts. When the DCT isn't cooperating (which is less after the last update), a little less slop would be nice. That, and I've seen some of the dyno video's...this mount needs help with engines that have more power. Just trying to stay ahead of the game[thumb].

I think that when the final product starts to come together, it will look better than the Dip mods. I don't want to let the cat out of the bag just yet, though[8D]
 

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Yeah this looked fine until the wheels. The wheels make it look super ghetto.
 

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dude haters gonna hate. i love the black wheels haha. because they're different, they're cool man [thumb]....maybe i'll do them one day!
 

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I'm seeing a pattern here...and I do appreciate the responses. All black wheels may not be in the cards, but I am going to keep sporting them while the rest of the mods begin their final application. Then, when the rest of the exterior/suspension mods are on, I'll post a pic both before and after the removal of the plasti-dip. This is, of course, assuming the dip lasts another month or two. I'm generally too busy (lazy) to hand wash and typically run through the pressure wash 3 weeks a month.

I do have a few alternate ideas for the wheels, something I'll play with prior to final paint...[thumb]

I also wonder if the pics are throwing it off. Those who have seen the car in person love the change. Even I hate the way it looks in the pics...Idk, we'll see.

Thanks again for the comments!
 

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dude haters gonna hate. i love the black wheels haha. because they're different, they're cool man [thumb]....maybe i'll do them one day!
[thumb] I'm cool with constructive criticism, though it is nice to have at least one person that likes it.

I think that the proportion is all out of whack with the black rims. Interestingly, after I Dipped them it appeared as if I had thrown in a suspension lift. I gave the car a couple days to re-settle from being on the jacks half a day, and it looks no better. So hopefully the springs get installed in the next couple of weeks and can help re-unify it.

Side Note-My buddy has a Black Ti hatch (wife's), and he's holding out for a Turbo Veloster...Thought you may get a kick out of that being in your signature!
 

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Love what you've done so far! I'm getting a set of black wheels for my SGM hatch but with a silver lip around them, so it has some separation from the black of the tire. Looking forward to seeing the future mods too [woot]
 

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It's just cool man you're like me just daring to be different and who cares, it's all in good personal fun to stand out a little bit.

The first picture looks hot that's what first caught my eye in the plasti dip thread, I saved that pic. But the second pic you have up here looks eh - it's just the angle and lighting. I can see though, how in the first pic it works well. (And you can peel the stuff off, or just peel one side off, go half and half.)

[facepalm] He must like cheap plastic and small Korean cars. The HV just doesn't stand up to the Ti for my needs, that's all I'm saying. Had a walkaround of one; little room in there for what I would need it for, and just like PatroN said, haha. (not to go off topic or anything) to each his own as the saying goes.
 

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Love what you've done so far! I'm getting a set of black wheels for my SGM hatch but with a silver lip around them, so it has some separation from the black of the tire. Looking forward to seeing the future mods too [woot]
Thanks[thumb] That's a pretty good idea with the wheels...[idea]

It's just cool man you're like me just daring to be different and who cares, it's all in good personal fun to stand out a little bit.

The first picture looks hot that's what first caught my eye in the plasti dip thread, I saved that pic. But the second pic you have up here looks eh - it's just the angle and lighting. I can see though, how in the first pic it works well. (And you can peel the stuff off, or just peel one side off, go half and half.)

[facepalm] He must like cheap plastic and small Korean cars. The HV just doesn't stand up to the Ti for my needs, that's all I'm saying. Had a walkaround of one; little room in there for what I would need it for, and just like PatroN said, haha. (not to go off topic or anything) to each his own as the saying goes.
We do have some pretty nasty contour on those headlights. It is very angular and semi-unattractive when viewed in any direction other than head on. I just don't want to cover the reflectors. I use the Loder 1899 Mk3 for inspiration, and that is one thing I really don't like about it-the eyelids.

I agree with you on the Veloster. Neat in some ideas, not remotely near the quality of the Ti, and sporting the H badge that (while they have gotten better) I don't think I can ever fully trust. Even if I was cool with it, the last thing I need is a turbo. That's why I chose a Ti now over paying roughly the same for the ST.

There is no off-topic in this thread to me. Just chillin. Real opinions, real chat. Just trying to get to know some fellow enthusiasts and their thought processes.[cheers]
 

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Awesome, thanks![thumb]

I owe you a high-five, if we ever get that Smilie.[8D]
High five is much better than [facepalm]!!

What did the window deflectors do(ie. how did they fail)? I've got some OE's bnib. Maybe I'll sell them to somebody at a good discount.
 

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High five is much better than [facepalm]!!

What did the window deflectors do(ie. how did they fail)? I've got some OE's bnib. Maybe I'll sell them to somebody at a good discount.
High-fives could be currency in my world.[werd]

The driver's side deflector broke at the tab that slides behind the side mirror plastic the first time I went to the car wash. The shades had a few days to cure before I went there, the little tab just couldn't handle the pressure. After that broke, it slowly started de-bonding from the crazy rubber that it attaches to.

The drivers side rear passenger began to de-bond from the window and crazy rubber as well. I did scuff the sills (thanks for that vehicle scar, Ford) and also applied the primer as per the instructions. Being an A&P mechanic, I'm kind of a stickler for following instructions.

The passenger side had no issues whatsoever, but I couldn't rightly just keep one side. I ripped them all off and placed them ever-so-gently in the trash[:(!]. It was the first and only set of out-of-channel ventshades that I will ever buy.

I've heard that in-channel was affecting the window motors, but I don't know if that was an isolated incident. You could probably find more info by searching the threads. I will say that you don't realize just how quiet these cars are until you put a set of ventshades on, it was surprising. Every vehicle I've ever owned has had a set (smoker, just not in this car) and it is surprisingly louder with them installed.

So now, my car is hot when I get in it after a days work. Cool during the day and loud on the road, or quiet on the road and hot after work. Those appear to be our choices.
 

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Well A&P, meet ATP. Good to know you. Glad you're a stickler!

I'm thinking of trying the EGR in-channel visors, but I haven't made up my mind yet.
 

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Well A&P, meet ATP. Good to know you. Glad you're a stickler!

I'm thinking of trying the EGR in-channel visors, but I haven't made up my mind yet.
I couldn't tell exactly what was in your Avatar, but I figured if I threw out A&P that I would get something. Most ATP's appreciate those that try to do work by the book![thumb]

Most all in-channel visors require the removal of the felt for good adhesion. I would imagine that people not wanting to remove it may be what is causing the motor issues. One or two had motors fail, others seemed to complain that it was interfering with the auto up/down. Idk for sure.

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