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Just got back from the dealer after having a no reverse issue with my dct. I've read everything I can find on this problem and have cleaned all the grounds and replaced the shift actuator motors with no luck.
The dealer wants to replace the clutch and if this doesn't work then replace the tcm.
Here's what the dealer found but not sure what they mean by the stuck spring.

Maybe someone here has more knowledge and can help me understand if the clutch really needs replacing.



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I tried to look on the invoice for your mileage, but couldn’t see it. Looks like a Fiesta with the DCT. The codes imply and the work up implies that the clutch B is stuck engaged. You will most likely need a new clutch as the “B” shift fork isn’t working and the clutch is stuck engaged. If your mileage is higher, then that will give credence to the clutch as well. But depending on driving style even a lower mileage clutch could be bad.
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$548 for the clutch + $211 for the lever/fork = $759 and that only includes the clutch B fork... That's highway robbery. Run and run fast away from that dealer. They also mistakenly doubled up the price. The parts and labor is listed up top for $2921 which is very high for a clutch replacement btw and then they list it below for $5150(before tax)!

hstrymkrs has done this so he can affirm that the clutch kit complete with BOTH forks and all hardware is sold by Luk in the aftermarket. Interestingly, it's the very same brand parts that Ford reboxes and sells as Ford/Motorcraft.
It's sold here on rockauto: 2012 FORD FOCUS 2.0L L4 Clutch Kit | RockAuto
The Luk kit is listed under "manual trans" but with automatic under the description. Whoever listed it on rockauto didn't list it in the right section. The part # is 07233 and it's $455. That's the clutch kit that you need. It used to be that only Ford was able to get the clutch kit but now anyone can get it.

Any qualified shop can replace it for you and it's not necessary that the dealer does it. My suggestion is take it to a trans shop since Ford gave you an insane price. You should call around to a couple of trans shops to get price quotes for the job. Even a lot of regular garages will do clutches too but a trans shop does them all the time.
Most of the price of a clutch replacement is going to be labor. If you get quotes then ask how much the labor part of it is and then once you have that then tell them you'll provide the kit yourself. This will save on the possibly hundreds of $ in markup that a shop will add to the part price this way you only pay them for labor. Buy the clutch kit yourself and then provide it to the shop doing the work to keep anyone from marking up the parts as all places do.
 

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Cobrajet- the $5150 included a TCM and a bunch of other maintenance on pages I didn't include.

Looks like the tool to remove the clutch is about $195 on amazon. I've replaced clutches on manual cars before so maybe this wouldn't be so hard with the special tool.
Only thing is finding someone with the computer to program the transmission after new clutch is installed.
hstrymkrs- what tool did you use to reprogram the transmission?
 

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Cobrajet- the $5150 included a TCM and a bunch of other maintenance on pages I didn't include.

Looks like the tool to remove the clutch is about $195 on amazon. I've replaced clutches on manual cars before so maybe this wouldn't be so hard with the special tool.
Only thing is finding someone with the computer to program the transmission after new clutch is installed.
hstrymkrs- what tool did you use to reprogram the transmission?
Tool to reprogram the trans? There's a relearn process but that's it. The TCM is the only thing that is programmable on the trans itself and you're not changing the software in it yourself so there's no dealer visit(or tool) required. It relearns how to shift on its own assuming it's working right.
hstrymkrs used a cheap chinese kit from Amazon. Maybe rockauto sells it for even less but he talks in detail about this repair here: (3) For better or worse, it is done. | Focus Fanatics Forum
 

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Cobra is correct. The transmission just needto relearn the shift points, etc. I have an Autel that does it. You can also use the ForScan software. The dealer here quoted me $2800 for parts and labor. 🤷🏻
The tool I bought off Amazon did great except for the inner seal tool that I mentioned earlier. I would pony up and buy the better seal puller for a little more money. The main tool for pulling the clutch and replacing it did great. I did not buy the third tool to reset the clutch as I was putting in a new one.
My total cost was $1100 plus two days labor.
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Interesting, I've been watching YouTube videos with guys using a scan tool to relearn the transmission after clutch replacement but am relieved to hear this step might not be necessary.

I've been to 2 independent shops that both recommend getting a used transmission with less miles. They both have said that 200k miles is a lot for this transmission. Thoughts on this?

I was going to unload this car after seeing the dealer bill but am getting my hopes back if I can fix it for $1500 or less. I have $1500 into the car including purchase and really like it so definitely going to give this a go.
 

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Your DPS6 trans a essentially a manual dct(dual clutch transmission) that's electromechanically controlled. The internals are basically the same as any dct manual trans but with a TCM and clutch actuators bolted to it.
200k means that your clutch has been replaced before and that this is at least the 2nd one. The clutch in this trans doesn't last more than about 120k at best. No one reports getting more miles on that clutch. The TCM, clutch actuators, and clutch kit are pretty much all that wears out or goes bad on the DPS6. Therefore, since you already replaced your clutch actuators if you replace the clutch kit you should have little else to worry about other than the TCM which is subject to failure on any DPS6 trans regardless of mileage. A used trans is a HUGE gamble at least with this model.
 

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Went back to the first mechanic and showed him the clutch removal tool on amazon. He was amazed at how cheap it is and seems more inclined to take on the job. I think he recommended a used transmission thinking the tool was expensive. Went to a transmission specialist and got a quote of $2375 for the repair which still seems high considering they charge $1400 just for the clutch kit.

Cobrajet- thanks, I'm feeling better about getting the transmission fixed now.
 

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$2375 total - $1400 for the clutch kit(WAY too expensive unless that includes you paying for the special tools) = $975 for labor. That's not terrible considering the hourly rate here in Jersey is $137/hr. Of course, you should buy the kit from rockauto yourself for $500(including tax + shipping), supply it to the shop(AFTER you got their complete quote like you already did), and then save the $900 in markup that the shop is trying to charge you. I find when you supply parts to shops they sometimes try to find a small undisclosed thing or two to add onto the bill to try to lessen the blow of them not profiting off the parts that they normally supply. It still works out in your favor though especially with parts this expensive.
 

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Cobra is correct. The transmission just needto relearn the shift points, etc. I have an Autel that does it. You can also use the ForScan software. The dealer here quoted me $2800 for parts and labor. 🤷🏻
The tool I bought off Amazon did great except for the inner seal tool that I mentioned earlier. I would pony up and buy the better seal puller for a little more money. The main tool for pulling the clutch and replacing it did great. I did not buy the third tool to reset the clutch as I was putting in a new one.
My total cost was $1100 plus two days labor.
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hstrymkrs - which tool did you get on amazon? I see a few on there.
 

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hstrymkrs - which tool did you get on amazon? I see a few on there.
Says it is unavailable now 🤷🏻 They are all similar. Offshore tools probably made in the same factory.
 

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Thanks, I ordered a set that come with a seal puller. Will update when the new clutch is installed.
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I wish you well. I didn’t think it was that bad of a job. Just take your time and follow the shop manual/alldata. Make sure the inner seal puller is tapered real well and has finely tapered grooves. Mine didn’t and wouldn’t grab the seal properly.
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Long overdue update:
I finally got the clutch replaced and the car has been driving great for about a month. It's much smoother and no shudder but yesterday a CEL came on and the car wouldn't go into reverse. Same problem as before but this morning it went into reverse fine.
Is this the TCM acting up?
I've done everything except replace the TCM. The car is out of warranty.
 
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