Just as your answer does the same for you.Your question solidifies your automotive knowledge
Not wanting to argue or debate, you just posted that the GT is below average, I asked why, and you couldn't give any reasoning (and still haven't).I guess it's Sunday night and people are bored enough to ARGUE about a Hyundai product.
Okay, I give. The Hyundai Elantra GT is truly wonderful piece of engineering.
Now for the people that want to debate back-and-forth, go change your panties.
Best solution for the Focus is to get a stick! very fun, smooth, and clutch is light but not grabby. Drive it in city traffic every day, wouldnt have it any other wayI was told by someone that there was a "software reflash to fix some bugs with the shift points and it has been very smooth ever since." Anyone here have the reflash and still having issues? I'm debating on whether to purchase a '13 Focus or a '13 Elantra GT, and would prefer the Focus, but the tranny issues are making me a bit hesitant.
Finally, some relevant information! Thank you!Best solution for the Focus is to get a stick! very fun, smooth, and clutch is light but not grabby. Drive it in city traffic every day, wouldnt have it any other way
Elantra doesnt have half the chassis, steering feel, or overall handling that the Focus does. Hyundai engineers dont have squat on Ford of Europe in that department Not to mention the Elantra auto is slower than the DCT Focus
I toot the manual horn 24/7 so disregard it if you have no interest haha. Its worth looking into if you have friends with an old one or something to practice on, very rewarding and fun to drive, and that extra grand can be spent on options! or blow and prostitutes!Finally, some relevant information! Thank you!
I'm mainly looking for a reliable car with good mpg, and the GT has good reviews from what I've seen.
I knew someone who had a '11 Focus and I really enjoyed driving it, so that's why it's my main choice now. I'm definitely open to other hatchbacks, but from what I've seen, the Focus and GT have caught my eye (particularly the Focus).
Haven't had the opportunity to learn manual yet, but I'll definitely look into it! Thanks for the input!
I actually recently had something similar happen I was on freeway in traffic and would gradually accelerate then it would jerk into the next gear I guess but no power at all sounded like I was just revving my engine. I had to just get off the freeway and then I shut my car off then back on and it worked.Hello,
I am new to Focus Fanatics.
Allow me to introduce myself,
My name is Phillip James. I currently reside in the Nashville area near Murfreesboro, Tennessee. I am 17, with the 2012 Ford Focus being my first ever car. I am a car fanatic or as my mom calls me "Car crazy". I have been driving my focus for a little less than a year putting around 14,000 miles on my car from.
On September 14th, 2012 I drove home with my new car that I am so fortunate to have. I loved everything about the car, except the mesh (tan) interior. But I got over the fact from being so excited about my new car. After about a week of driving the car I noticed some weird and well, different shifting patterns compared to my fathers Volvo. After about the third we I was driving on the interstate when I punched it to build up speed to merge with oncoming traffic. When I pushed down on the petal the cars RPMs reached 7000 and held for a couple of seconds. While the engine was revving at the 7000RPMs the car lost all power and I was not accelerating as I should have. The car shortly after jerked extremely hard and the engine cut off completely! Locking up the breaks and sending into other lanes(with oncoming traffic at 75mph ) I thought surely I was dead. I had to get out of the car and push it off the interstate to call my dad and tell him about the problem. He came with my mother to pick up the car.
For the next 3 weeks I would not drive the car as I was too scared from my experience. My father brought the car to the dealership to see what was wrong with the car. They reassured him everything was ok with the car and nothing was wrong that it was I that made the mistake and that I had done something wrong.
(I think I know how to drive a car. Gas on right, break on left, and two hands on the wheel)
While my dad drove the car from the house to work he averaged about 27MPG not the 32-45 advertised. He wrote Ford asking why the MPG could be so bad. They never responded.
Summer time had finally come and I decided that I would drive the car again and had accepted that maybe I had done something wrong that day on the interstate and that it wasn't the car. As I was driving to work one morning the car was still making terrible shifts along with a new rattle noise. The rattle noise was so loud I could hear it over the radio at 10(20 being the highest level)
As I drove up to work my boss asked why was my car making a noise that sounded like someone was tapping under the hood. I responded "no clue"
The next morning I brought the car to a different Ford dealership asking them to take a look to see if anything could be wrong. The pulled the car in. Poped the hood. Looked at the engine. Turned and looked at my and said "nothing is wrong with it." I left and brought to car to a local family mechanic and asked him to take a look. He said the car did not sound right the minute I pulled in. He said he had herd about the transmission problems in the new 2011-2012 Ford Focus line up. I told him about the occasion in Nashville on the interstate along with everything els. He asked to keep the car over night so I let him.
The next day I went back to the mechanic. He said he was unsure of the problem buy could hear the tapping noise from the transmission. He told me to take it back to the dealership with my father and ask them to reprogram the computer on the car. So I went back to the dealership with my father. They pulled the car in connected the car to the computer. Within 30 mins of waiting
a man with oil all over him said everything is fine now. The computer just needed reprogramming.
The car began to run much smother but still terrible shifting in speed from 0-45mph
After a couple of weeks of driving to work and back, I finally just accepted the fact that the car was just that way.
Later in the summer I revived a letter from Ford saying there was a recall on my windshield wipers. (Which didn't concern me at all.) I brought the car in. The took a quick look and said that everything was inorder and I had the seal on the motor.
Now into the year 2013 I have noticed a constant buzz noise from 45-85mph and a couple of hard jerks from shift changing.
One day while driving sync totally stopped working and has not worked since then.
I took the car back to the dealer ship to get and oil change from I was 5k miles over (oops!). The mechanic there said there was a recall on my from the transmission to be reprogrammed (again) and that the new program would fix all my problems.
Just recently the car has jerked twice on me on a couple occasions cutting the car totally off and locking up the breaks.
I began to research the problem online to see if anyone els was having the same problems as myself. I saw were people had been complaining about the transmission issues but have not seen about the hard jerk car cut off.
I began to wonder is my car a lemon???
Ford is really losing there integrity here.I actually recently had something similar happen I was on freeway in traffic and would gradually accelerate then it would jerk into the next gear I guess but no power at all sounded like I was just revving my engine. I had to just get off the freeway and then I shut my car off then back on and it worked.
I took my car to the dealership because obviously this is dangerous when your on the freeway and can't go more than 20mph and ur car doesn't shift. They kept the car all day and nothing just a update for the transmission.
I do have the rattle which they said cannot replicate of course. Rattle mainly heard at low speeds and turning at low speeds.
This is the 3rd time bringing my car in for transmission issues. And they have t done anything besides reset it, or say they was an update and they didn't see anything wrong with it. I honestly don't feel safe in it at all. Ford should issue some kind of trade in program atleast if people are willing to get another ford that is..
I'm not a lawyer, but I think there are legal reasons why Ford is playing this game with us...Do what ever it takes to fix the problem. Give us new transmission. Give us something. At least tell us the problem and how to fix it.
There's a good chance that they know there's a defect, but they either don't understand the defect completely, or don't know how to fix the defect.
However, if they acknowledge the defect, they'll be required to tell every potential customer about that defect BEFORE that customer buys a car. Can you image the showroom salesman telling a potential customer: Yes, this is a great car, but there's a defect with the transmission that might leave you stranded on a highway - and we don't have a fix for it.
FYI, the idea of them being required to disclose defects is based on Pennsylvania's consumer protection law. That law doesn't explicitly state that defects must be disclosed, but does state that it's illegal to sell something under the premise of it being of higher quality/standards than it really is, and that it's illegal to sell something with false or misleading representation of facts. I'm sure most (if not all) states have similar laws.
Show me any communication from Ford that admits a problem with 2012 transmissions, but doesn't offer a repair attempt - and I'll show you a thousand lawyers all lined up with the words "class action" on the mind.Ford has admitted that there is a problem with the 2011-2012 transmission and with the new 2013 models has been fixed.
*raises hand*I was told by someone that there was a "software reflash to fix some bugs with the shift points and it has been very smooth ever since." Anyone here have the reflash and still having issues? I'm debating on whether to purchase a '13 Focus or a '13 Elantra GT, and would prefer the Focus, but the tranny issues are making me a bit hesitant.
I'll step in and defend Hyundai and say that my 2002 Elantra GT was the best car I ever owned. I had it for 9 years and put 180,000 miles on it, and had very little trouble with it.Not wanting to argue or debate, you just posted that the GT is below average, I asked why, and you couldn't give any reasoning (and still haven't).
If you're going to speak about the GT and Hyundai in general with a negative connotation, at least be able to back up your claim with relevant information, or don't even make the claim at all.
I am in no way defending Hyundai, but genuinely would like to know why it is "below average" as it is one of the cars I am considering purchasing, and I haven't really seen anything bad about it.
Troll ? That one almost slid by me. I would wager that my BACKGROUND IN THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY exceeds your expertise. But hey, thanks for the insult. They are always welcome.I'll step in and defend Hyundai and say that my 2002 Elantra GT was the best car I ever owned. I had it for 9 years and put 180,000 miles on it, and had very little trouble with it.
It was back to the dealership fewer times in its entire life than my Focus has been in the last 7 months.
In fact, it had fewer total problems than my Ford Focus has had transmission updates (and it's still not 100% right!).
That's my experience, for what it's worth, which I'll admit isn't much. I'm just one person... not a very representative sample. But at least it's a real experience, and not just the uninformed opinion of some forum troll pretending that he knows about automotive engineering.
I claimed no expertise, I was only sharing my experience. It's not my fault that my honest experience contradicts your still unsupported claim.Troll ? That one almost slid by me. I would wager that my BACKGROUND IN THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY exceeds your expertise. But hey, thanks for the insult. They are always welcome.