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Everyone keeps asking me if my transmission is "dual clutch" or not. I have no idea if they even make those for a manual. I've got an S class with a 5-speed manual tranny, what kinda transmission/clutch does it have? And I've read a few posts that say the gearbox is german made or something which is why it is so smooth, is that true? Thanks yall, I know its a noobie question but nothing I could find was specific to the S class so idk if the other classes the same setup or not.

thanks for clearing it up! yall are so helpful. best focus forum ever. [headbang]
 

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Hi Alladin,
You have a single clutch manual Gearbox , Dual clutch is the Powershift 6 speed Automatic Gearbox. Gearbox=Transmission
 

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Yes the gearbox is German made. (at least designed, and MOST of them made there. i cannot promise every one is made in Germany.)
The basic design has been used by Ford for awhile. It is a good gearbox.
 

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dual clutch is in the automatics only
Hi Alladin,
You have a single clutch manual Gearbox , Dual clutch is the Powershift 6 speed Automatic Gearbox. Gearbox=Transmission
Ahh okay I see, thanks for clearing it up! Uber noob question #2...whats powershift mean? i was under the assumption that entailed the ability to drive in 3'rd and once you hit a certain speed (where gears are turning at same speed) you can shift up to 4th without having to clutch? or 1st and 2nd. cause they are on the same gear just forward/backward position?


Yes the gearbox is German made. (at least designed, and MOST of them made there. i cannot promise every one is made in Germany.)
The basic design has been used by Ford for awhile. It is a good gearbox.
Okay so even the manual gear box is German design/possibly manufactured? Sick. Uber sick.
 

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You have to be really good to actually powershift with no clutch.
Generally you can shift 'hard' with a very quick partial clutch.. it is hard on the gearbox.
I blew the differential right OUT of the box with a first to second 'hard' shift at maximum RPM on my SVT Contour. It was not a happy moment. The gearbox had to be TIG welded back together...
If you have plans to use the car for awhile. be kind to your transmission.
 

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Powershift with respect to the dual-clutch gearbox is just a marketing name.

When you said you had an "S class" I thought you meant you had a Mercedes for a second ;)
 

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Powershift with respect to the dual-clutch gearbox is just a marketing name.

When you said you had an "S class" I thought you meant you had a Mercedes for a second ;)
I did....[werd]


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ahhh i wish. or dont. my focus is doing me fine. benz is for when im old and rich. focus now, bmw when im a little older and a little (a lot) better off financially, benz right before im about to die.
 

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I did....[werd]


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ahhh i wish. or dont. my focus is doing me fine. benz is for when im old and rich. focus now, bmw when im a little older and a little (a lot) better off financially, benz right before im about to die.
Don't hope for a Benz. They have an incredibly poor reliability rating. The electrical is an absolute nightmare.

If you buy a Benz, keep it 'till just before the warranty is over... and sell it!
 

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Yes the gearbox is German made. (at least designed, and MOST of them made there. i cannot promise every one is made in Germany.)
The basic design has been used by Ford for awhile. It is a good gearbox.
You have a so-called MTX-75 transaxle. It is mfr'd by Getrag-Ford, I think in Cologne (sp?), Germany.

The 75 refers to the input to output shaft spacing (of 75mm) or just below 3".

It is a medium duty strength of transaxle, that has had a very successful product run, first (I believe) in the Mondeo / Contour / Mystique. It may have seen service before hand, in the UK / Europe, in an Escort variant...?

The free-spinning gears run on caged needle bearings, which adds to the longevity.

It has become more refined as production has continued, and now is considered to be a pretty smooth 'box. Almost rivalling BMW or Honda.

Treat it with respect, and it will last a long time.

First one or two shifts (from first to second) from bone cold -- do it at just above walking speed -- and pull smoothly and slowly... and you will preserve the second gear synchro.

Also, do not downshift from high speeds, into lower gears.

Gentle gear-lever pressure; it'll "tell you" when it wants to go into gear...

Typically do not shift back into first, upon stopping, 'till its at walking speed.

Finally, make all of your shifts smoothly, fairly slowly, and pause a moment at neutral.

Do all of this, and it'll last a 'real long time.
 

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You have a so-called MTX-75 transaxle. It is mfr'd by Getrag-Ford, I think in Cologne (sp?), Germany.

The 75 refers to the input to output shaft spacing (of 75mm) or just below 3".

It is a medium duty strength of transaxle, that has had a very successful product run, first (I believe) in the Mondeo / Contour / Mystique. It may have seen service before hand, in the UK / Europe, in an Escort variant...?

The free-spinning gears run on caged needle bearings, which adds to the longevity.

It has become more refined as production has continued, and now is considered to be a pretty smooth 'box. Almost rivalling BMW or Honda.

Treat it with respect, and it will last a long time.

First one or two shifts (from first to second) from bone cold -- do it at just above walking speed -- and pull smoothly and slowly... and you will preserve the second gear synchro.

Also, do not downshift from high speeds, into lower gears.

Gentle gear-lever pressure; it'll "tell you" when it wants to go into gear...

Typically do not shift back into first, upon stopping, 'till its at walking speed.

Finally, make all of your shifts smoothly, fairly slowly, and pause a moment at neutral.

Do all of this, and it'll last a 'real long time.
Bro wow. You came through with the knowledge. thank you so much man, I'm definitely hitting you up with some rep for all this info. I swear I've always been wondering about the best way to handle my gearbox. [thumb]
 

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I did not know the '12 had the MTX75. My '01 has the MTX75 and I love it. Haven't been as gentle on it as Eurofordfan wants us to be on it. 75K and still going fine on original clutch. I heal toe on downshifts and have been known to slam through the gears at times. I also run auto-x in 2nd (30-40mph) and will wind 6000 rpm often.

As for so-called powershifting the manual. You need to match the rpm's with the speed for the gear. I would not do 1st or 2nd like that but with patience and practice you can up-shift and down-shift w/o the use of the clutch. I do not make a practice of doing it but have done it a few time with no grinding. When the rpm and speed is matched a slight push on the stick and the gearbox almost pulls itself into gear.
 

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Don't hope for a Benz. They have an incredibly poor reliability rating. The electrical is an absolute nightmare.

If you buy a Benz, keep it 'till just before the warranty is over... and sell it!

Trust me when I say this, I know from experience. Never and I mean NEVER, own a modern BMW out of the warrenty period.
 
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