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I am reading the 0 ~ 60 times are about the same as the 2008-2011 focus 2.0L is this true? is the 08-11 focus just as fast as the 2012 M/or DSG trans?
 

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Well the new Focus is a little heavier at just over 2900 lbs vs the '10 at 2600 lbs
Then I'm sure the compression and gearing play a difference in that 0-60 time as well.

The new focus does have more HP at 160 vs 140 from the '10...whats that saying, every 100 pounds of weight reduction is about the same as a 10hp gain?
 

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whats that saying, every 100 pounds of weight reduction is about the same as a 10hp gain?
100 pounds is worth .1 second in the quarter mile. I don't think that equates to 10 hp.
 

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whats that saying, every 100 pounds of weight reduction is about the same as a 10hp gain?
100 pounds is worth .1 second in the quarter mile. I don't think that equates to 10 hp.
 

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To me the main difference is the look and feel of the car. IMO, performance wise the 2012 holds the road much better. When I hit the gas the 2012 responds better. I'm sure a 2010 with a tuned engine and suspension would be a contender to a stock 2012. So to me, the 2012 is more of a tuned from the factory car that happens to get good mpgs than a mpg leader segment vehicle, but I am bias. (plus it looks 10x better).
 

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2008-2011 is 107 HP per ton
2012 is 110hp per ton
what it is dynoed at is even better
whp per ton is
2008-2011 86.9whp/ton
2012 102whp/ton
 

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I've driven both and the 2012 feels much faster and handles much better. I've clocked my 2012 at 7.2 to 60. Pretty sure the 08-11's got like 8-8.3. The dual clutch auto really keeps this engine in its power band, so even when driving slowly it still feels like you've got more oomph. Its a matter of what you want to pay, and what features you care about; the 2nd gen is a solid car, but the 2012 has more upscale and sporty flair to it.
 

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my 08 barely ran 16's and from what i hear a stock 2012 ran a 15.8...
 

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I did drive a Focus 2010 it seems to me as it is a lot off the way if compared with Focus 2012. Driving a Focus 2010 was no different than driving a Mazda 3 2010. Not the sport model, though. I am impressed with the "vrooooom" the Focus 2012 has on it if you step on the gas pedal. I have mine with the Selectshift and let me say that when I step on it, it is a nice feeling of its engine power (it changes the gears at 4000-5000 - and not in S mode). And the "growl" is quite nice. I had my Cougar S V6 (5M) and I am feelling almost like being in it. I am suprized how responsive it is when I step on it at arround 100 km/h (62mph) to push it up to 150 km/h (93 mph). In almost no time it is there. WOW ! Good job Ford for this "little" engine and DCT I love more and more.
 

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I've driven both and the 2012 feels much faster and handles much better. I've clocked my 2012 at 7.2 to 60. Pretty sure the 08-11's got like 8-8.3. The dual clutch auto really keeps this engine in its power band, so even when driving slowly it still feels like you've got more oomph. Its a matter of what you want to pay, and what features you care about; the 2nd gen is a solid car, but the 2012 has more upscale and sporty flair to it.
I drove a 11 rental and my direct comparison on some turns
mph in turn
2010 30,35,32
2012 35, 40, 40
 

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When comparing times you need to ensure they were tested by the same facility in a controlled environment.

Here are the Consumer Reports performance numbers for all the Focuses they have ever tested:

2012 SEL 4-door hatchback, 2.0-liter Four, 6-speed sequential
0-60 in 9.3 sec
1/4 mile in 17.2 sec

2012 SE sedan, 2.0-liter Four, 6-speed sequential
0-60 in 9.2 sec
1/4 mile in 17.1 sec

2008 Ford Focus sedan SES 4-cyl MT
0-60 in 9 sec
1/4 mile in 16.9 sec

2006 Ford Focus hatchback ZX3 S 4-cyl MT
0.60 in 8.6 sec
1/4 mile in 16.6 sec

2005 Ford Focus sedan ZX4 SES 4-cyl
0-60 in 10.1 sec
1/4 mile in 17.7 sec

2002 Ford Focus hatchback SVT 4-cyl MT
0-60 in 8.4 sec
1/4 mile in 16.7 sec

It looks like the new Focus falls in the middle with respect to past Focus performance.

If you're interested in how they got these numbers, there's a video:
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/how-we-test/acceleration/acceleration.htm
 

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When comparing times you need to ensure they were tested by the same facility in a controlled environment.

Here are the Consumer Reports performance numbers for all the Focuses they have ever tested:

2012 SEL 4-door hatchback, 2.0-liter Four, 6-speed sequential
0-60 in 9.3 sec
1/4 mile in 17.2 sec

2012 SE sedan, 2.0-liter Four, 6-speed sequential
0-60 in 9.2 sec
1/4 mile in 17.1 sec

2008 Ford Focus sedan SES 4-cyl MT
0-60 in 9 sec
1/4 mile in 16.9 sec

2006 Ford Focus hatchback ZX3 S 4-cyl MT
0.60 in 8.6 sec
1/4 mile in 16.6 sec

2005 Ford Focus sedan ZX4 SES 4-cyl
0-60 in 10.1 sec
1/4 mile in 17.7 sec

2002 Ford Focus hatchback SVT 4-cyl MT
0-60 in 8.4 sec
1/4 mile in 16.7 sec

It looks like the new Focus falls in the middle with respect to past Focus performance.

If you're interested in how they got these numbers, there's a video:
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/how-we-test/acceleration/acceleration.htm
You can't confirm controlled conditions because for above tests you weren't administering the tests... I can tell you that Consumer Reports has had some out to lunch performance numbers on many vehicles they've tested. They're the last people I would trust.
 

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I've always found Consumer guides numbers to be slow. 0-60 mph in the 9 sec range for the 2012. No and hell no. Motor trend tested the Fiesta 6 speed auto and got like a 9.5 sec 0-60. I had a 2011 Fiesta SES for 6 months before trading it in on the Focus. I can tell you right now, the Focus is a lot quicker.

I always check Car and Drivers performance numbers. They seem to be on the mark almost all the time.

Feb 2011 Focus SEL Sedan: 6 speed auto. 0-60 mph 7.6 secs 1/4 mile in 16.3 @ 89 mph

April 2011 Focus SE hatchback: 5 speed manual. 0-60 mph 7.3 secs 1/4 mile in 15.9 @ 89 mph

June 2011 Focus SE sedan : 6 speed auto. 0-60 mph 8.1 secs 1/4 mile in 8.1 secs 1/4 mile in 16.3 @ 87 mph

I've seen a few other tests by Motor week and others and they've averaged about 7.6 secs 0-60 mph. So that's about the average. The 9's .... yeah right. maybe if you were towing a trailer....
 

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When comparing times you need to ensure they were tested by the same facility in a controlled environment.

Here are the Consumer Reports performance numbers for all the Focuses they have ever tested:

2012 SEL 4-door hatchback, 2.0-liter Four, 6-speed sequential
0-60 in 9.3 sec
1/4 mile in 17.2 sec

2012 SE sedan, 2.0-liter Four, 6-speed sequential
0-60 in 9.2 sec
1/4 mile in 17.1 sec

2008 Ford Focus sedan SES 4-cyl MT
0-60 in 9 sec
1/4 mile in 16.9 sec

2006 Ford Focus hatchback ZX3 S 4-cyl MT
0.60 in 8.6 sec
1/4 mile in 16.6 sec

2005 Ford Focus sedan ZX4 SES 4-cyl
0-60 in 10.1 sec
1/4 mile in 17.7 sec

2002 Ford Focus hatchback SVT 4-cyl MT
0-60 in 8.4 sec
1/4 mile in 16.7 sec

It looks like the new Focus falls in the middle with respect to past Focus performannce.

If you're interested in how they got these numbers, there's a video:
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/how-we-test/acceleration/acceleration.htm
Are these consumer reports on crack? Please if its not car and driver and motor trend never post numbers again. Their all so far off. Hope others with SVTs or 2012s back me up because those numbers are a JOKE.
 

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Are these consumer reports on crack? Please if its not car and driver and motor trend never post numbers again. Their all so far off.
C&D, R&T, etc are funded by advertisements for the Ford Focus, so they're motivated to fudge the numbers a bit to please Ford. They're also given a hand picked sample by Ford.

Consumers Reports on the other hand is a non profit that accepts no ads and buys the cars themselves anonymously. They also approach the tests for more scientifically.
 

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C&D, R&T, etc are funded by advertisements for the Ford Focus, so they're motivated to fudge the numbers a bit to please Ford. They're also given a hand picked sample by Ford.

Consumers Reports on the other hand is a non profit that accepts no ads and buys the cars themselves anonymously. They also approach the tests for more scientifically.
Calling all the heavy car magazines full of crap or bias is a good way to get laughed at around here.
considering we already have 2012s running exactly to the tenth same times as Car and Driver.

Im sorry but having owned every model focus I can tell you all those numbers are absolutely full of shit... So think what you will but my 6 speed is a 7.4 0-60 and my 2001 sedan ran a 16.7 and my 2003 svt ran a 15.9. Consumer reports sounds like that need new drivers.

Worst bullshit i have ever seen. I apologize if i seem upset but there goes another shitty agency making the focus look like a dog POS.
 

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C&D, R&T, etc are funded by advertisements for the Ford Focus, so they're motivated to fudge the numbers a bit to please Ford. They're also given a hand picked sample by Ford.

Consumers Reports on the other hand is a non profit that accepts no ads and buys the cars themselves anonymously. They also approach the tests for more scientifically.
When it comes to car testing CR is incompetent. Its been proven time and time again that they do not use standardized methods for doing tests. They adjust the testing to get the results they want.
 

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Meh, I'm not talking about drag racIng an Eco car. I'm talking about how it feels on the road. Handling, steering, passing power... I believe all these to be better than previous generations while it maintains a 40mpg rating. That's good enough for me.
 
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