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Why bother posting if you want PM'ed responses? Why not just PM someone and ask? And for your question, I'm not sure, I know the motorcraft oil filter part number is fl-2005 so if the 2.3 is the same then theres your answer.
 

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the answer is no

the zetec (svt included) and the duratec take different oil filters
 

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I found out that the filters are just different lengths............. more capacity for the SVT 2.0 . So says a Ford mechanic. Dont know this to be Gospel.
 

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Do you use motorcraft filters?

im having trouble finding the motorcraft FL-2005 filter for the SVT. The regular zetec uses the FL-400S filter. I compared them today and they look the same.

My question is are they the same?

cuase I can not find the FL-2005 filter at all anymore. No one sells it.
 

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Have you tried a dealership? Or do you mean parts stores cause I know Advance Auto doesn't carry them anymore.
 

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FL-2005 oil filter has been discontinued. The SVT and Zetec DOHC engines called for the FL-2005 if you went to the Ford dealership. For some reason the SVT supplement (02 and 03) said it required a FL-400 oil filter but when you went to the Ford counter it directed you to the FL-2005. Supposedly, the 2004 SVT supplement stated the SVT Zetec required FL-2005. The engine hasn't changed since it was introduced in 02.

Now that the FL-2005 has been removed from the inventory line up I'm not sure what we are going to do. However, I bough the last case of FL-2005's at Wal-Mart for around 22.44. I have 12 which should keep me over for a while. ;) That was a 1.87 a filter.

A longer filter would fit and definitely be better for longer synthetic intervals but not sure about the rate of flow. Could an oil filter slow the oil down enough it could be starved from other parts of the engine? (even if you put the extra 1/2 qt or whatever to make up for the oil in the filter)
 

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I didn't know that about the FL-2005 being discontinued. [:(]
Though, I haven't used one in quite a while.
I'm pretty much a WIX guy, and the 51315 matches the Motorcraft specs.

You mentioned a longer filter, and I believe the venerable PH-8A (Ford V8 filter) will fit.
However, I don't know if the specs are the same as the FL-2005.

I would also caution in using the FL-400S now that the "preferred" filter is discontinued.
I'm not sure of the exact reason that Ford changed the 2004 SVT supplement to specify the FL-2005, but it is a completely different filter.
The by-pass valve setting, and burst pressure ratings are better matched to a higher performance (higher revving) engine.

FL-400S specs:
Media: Paper
Height: 4.828
Outer Diameter Top: 2.921
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Burst Pressure-PSI: 275
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 20

FL-2005 specs:
Media: Paper
Height: 4.826
Outer Diameter Top: 2.983
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 16
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Burst Pressure-PSI: 320
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 19

Note the differences in the bypass valve setting PSI, and burst pressure PSI.
 

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Anyone else find out any more info? I am now out of FL-2005 filters and everyone is out.
 

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One of our local parts stores carries them.
And I know O'Reilly carries them if you have one of those.
In fact, I'm sure lots of chain stores do, but we don't have many of those around these parts.

Here you go...clicky the link, and enter your zip code in the "Where to Buy" box:
http://wixfilters.com

OK...so I was curious...
I used 40502.
I guess you do have O'Reilly stores. [;)]
In fact, you've got lots of choices:
http://wixfilters.com/wheretobuy/index.asp?zip=40502
 

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Why would ford not make the fl-2005 anymore???
 

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My assumption is there is little to no demand for it anymore. When you look at the Motorcraft filter book only 2 cars use the FL-2005. Those cars are the SVTF and a certain year to year Escort. I forget what years though.

The FL-400 filter is basically the same filter and will work on the SVTF and im guessing the Escort too. They probably just stopped making it cause of demand reason. Thats just my idea though. I am probably wrong.
 

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The FL-400 filter is basically the same filter
^^^That's what I was getting at in listing the specs.
It's not basically the same filter.
The by-pass valve setting of the FL-2005 is double the pressure of the FL-400.
That's a very important spec to look at, and I'm thinking that's exactly why Ford changed the filter recommendation in the later SVT Supplement manuals.

Here's a description:
OIL FILTER BYPASS VALVE
If you wait too long to change the oil and oil filter, there is a danger that the oil filter might become plugged.
To prevent a plugged oil filter from starving the engine for lubrication, oil filters have a built-in safety device called a "bypass valve."
When the differential pressure across the oil filter element exceeds a predetermined value (which varies depending on the engine application),
the bypass valve opens so oil can continue to flow to the engine.
But when the bypass valve is open, no filtration occurs.

The bypass valve also opens when a cold engine is first started.
Cold oil can be fairly thick and may not pass through the filter element very easily.
So the bypass valve opens and allows the oil to go around the filter until the oil warms up and flows more easily.
Once the oil gets warm and the bypass valve closes, oil flows through the filter and normal filtration resumes.
In a nutshell, the by-pass valve opens much earlier on the FL-2005 at 16psi, than does the FL-400 at 8-11psi.
There is a caveat though, shown in the quote, in that when the valve opens, the oil is not filtered.
However, I'd much rather have a slight amount of unfiltered oil go through the engine than none at all.
Remember, as soon as the pressure goes back up, the valve closes and the oil is filtered again.
 

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I stocked up on fl2005s when I owned my SVTF and my other zetecs. I have about 26 or so sitting in my garage that I can't do anything with now that I own a dtec.
 

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Purilator makes the Motorcrafts (same as the Pure One's). Have you tried them for one for the SVT?
 

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^Do you mean Purolator? I can't remember but I think that is the one I've been using with RP synthetic. Just searched their site and I'm almost sure it's the L25230 one that I've been using.

Little more expensive then the Motocraft's FL400S too.
 

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I stocked up on fl2005s when I owned my SVTF and my other zetecs. I have about 26 or so sitting in my garage that I can't do anything with now that I own a dtec.
ha you can sell them cheap to me if they are all fl-2005s
 
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