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Old 03-30-2015, 09:51 PM   #11
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I thought Ford Recommended ATF, just sayin not trying to start another debate ,but great info all the same
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I have a few more adds for the trans fluid. Had to replace the clutch and stuff in my in laws so I did a lot of searching and stuff. I did find out that the Mini trans takes a GL-4 type fluid which is hard to find. Most fluids are a GL-5 which say they are backwards compatible but is still harsher on the soft parts than a strait GL-4 fluid. Just something to keep in mind when searching for trans fluid. As for our trans I can only find the Ford fluid as recommended, besides all of our opinions.
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^Good call... all brass synchro transmissions need GL-4 fluids. GL-5 (or GL-4/GL-5) rated fluids will corrode/strip yellow metals (brass) and thus destroy synchros.

Also, some of the lube recommendations on page one are not completely consistent with the makers recommendations (i.e. Redline lists their MTL 75W80 GL-4 Gear Oil for our cars, not the MT-90 75W90 GL-4 Gear Oil).
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Which is weird cause the mini guys recommend the MT-90 75W90 GL-4 fluid which is what I ended up putting in the Mini cooper S. I just run the Ford Honey in my SVT.
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Hello Focus Community,

This thread is intended to consolidate our combined knowledge about the SVT Getrag MT285 transmission information, parts suppliers, and locations for acquiring replacements units into a singular thread. Please provide your feedback and sources and I will update the first post to make this thread better!

Thank you,
RevLimit

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Getrag MT285 Information Thread




Content:
-Getrag SVT/Mini Cooper S Gear Ration Comparison
-Getrag Transmission Oil
- Parts Sources
CV Axles
Getrag Internals
Getrag Transmission Shops
- MISC



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Getrag SVT/Mini Cooper S Comparison

SVT Focus gear ratios:

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...Gear......Lay......Lay:diff....Overall
...Ratio.....Shaft....Ratio.......Ratio
1 4.44:1.....1.......2.88:1.....12.7:1
2 2.67:1.....1.......2.88:1......7.7:1
3 1.33:1.....2.......4.25:1......5.7:1
4 1.08:1.....2.......4.25:1......4.6:1
5 1.33:1.....1.......2.88:1......3.8:1
6 1.08:1.....1.......2.88:1......3.1:1
R 2.82:1.....2.......4.25:1.....12.0:1

Mini Cooper S gear ratios:

...Gear......Lay......Lay:diff....Overall
...Ratio.....Shaft....Ratio.......Ratio
1 4.167:1.....1.......2.74:1.....11.43:1
2 2.619:1.....1.......2.74:1......7.18:1
3 1.333:1.....2.......4.05:1......5.40:1
4 1.089:1.....2.......4.05:1......4.41:1
5 1.333:1.....1.......2.74:1......3.66:1
6 1.089:1.....1.......2.74:1......2.97:1
R 2.748:1.....2.......4.05:1.....11.13:1

Sources:
FocalJet Thread - "SVT/Mini Cooper S Tranny" (Link)


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Getrag Transmission Oil

NOTICE:
There is a lot of debate about which fluid should be used inside the SVT Getrag transmission. Since I've not seen a scientific explanation in favor of using a specific type, I'm going to list the most commonly recommended fluids below.

Specs:
Getrag MT285 Fluid Capacity: 2.2 quarts.

List:
Motorcraft Full Synthetic Manual Transmission Fluid (Link)
Part Number: XT-M5-QS

Royal Purple Synchromax (Link)
Part Number: 12512

Redline MTL 75w90 (Link)
Part Number: 50304

AMSOIL Manual Synchromesh Transmission Fluid 5W-30 (Link)
Part Number: AMSOIL-MTFQT

Valvoline Synchromesh MTF (Link - Page 5)
UPC: 74130030947

Sources:
FocalJet Thread - "opinions on transmission fluid for Getrag" (Link)
FocusFanatics Thread - "Getrag gear oil (hopefully the final thread on it)" (Link)
BobIsTheOilGuy Thread - "What Trans fluid? MINI Cooper S - Getrag 6-speed" (Link)
YouTube - Ed Peters, Chrysler/Dodge SRT Engineer, discussing transmission fluid types and manual trans breakdown. (Link)



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Parts Sources

New CV Axles

EBay Axle Store
New SVT CV Axle Set - $166.00 (Link)


Ford Direct Parts
(Link)
$363.50
Left
Part Number: 3B437(TX-395)


$441.06
(Link)
Right
Part Number: 3B436(TX-394)





Replacement Transmission Sources

Speedway Recyclers
www.speedwayrecyclers.com
Location: Maribel, WI
Note: Speedway Recyclers is an SVT only scrapyard. They have a decent number of SVT only parts.


Car-Parts.com
www.car-part.com
Note: You will need to search for replacement transmission for 2002 or 2004. Their database is missing the SVT (6-speed) option for 2003. Be sure to verify the transmission model when you call.




Getrag Replacement Internals

Cobra Transmissions
(Link)
SVT (6 Speed) (Fwd), Synchro & Bearing, Gasket and Seal Kit, Focus SVT DOHC 00-Up (2.0L) (Getrag) (Ford)
Part#: CT-BK336WS
Note: Contact For Availability




Shops With Getrag Transmission Experience

AutoTech
www.autotech.com
Location:Aliso Viejo, CA



Cobra Transmission
www.cobratransmission.com
Location: Decatur, GA



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Miscellaneous Information

Google Spreadsheet showing top speed limits based on wheel/tire size (Link)
Getrag Tear-down and Differential Install (Link)
I am looking for the cadmium coated shift linkage tower selector assembly. (has counter weight and where the trans side shifter cable attaches) bushings honestly the whole assembly. Please let me know
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75/90 is WAY to heavy an oil for the Getreg in my opinion, if you ask the RP engineer ( not the idiot on the phone trying to sell you something ) its a "recommendation" and they have never tested it on a Getreg

I use Mobile Synthetic 5/50 in hundreds of Foci Trans and never one issues and there making from 150hp to 600 hp , and some been running like this over 200,000

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75/90 is WAY to heavy an oil for the Getreg in my opinion, if you ask the RP engineer ( not the idiot on the phone trying to sell you something ) its a "recommendation" and they have never tested it on a Getreg

I use Mobile Synthetic 5/50 in hundreds of Foci Trans and never one issues and there making from 150hp to 600 hp , and some been running like this over 200,000

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Gear oil and engine oil weights are measured differently. A 50wt engine oil is thicker than a 90wt gear oil. Your selection will probably result in very very good cold weather performance though, before the trans warms up, and as you have found will continue to perform just fine. As many have learned, transmission gears aren't terribly picky about fluid thickness. They just don't care. Generally a thinner fluid is run in a transmission, but because it's a transaxle, it has a differential in it. Diffs generally run slightly thicker fluid. They went for the thicker to protect the diff, since they knew the trans gears wouldn't give a crap. The syncros and sleeves however, care a little more. Stick with a GL4 fluid to prevent eating the syncros over time, and play with viscosity if you so choose. However, the ford spec'd fluid is apparently rated as a 75w-90. So there you go.
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Do you know of any other vehicles that share this transmission? Mazda's maybe? looking to extend my parts search
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Not this exact transmission. One of the mini cooper models uses it with different gear ratios and possibly a slightly different casing to fit the different ratio.
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i just need the linkage.. if it is the same that would open up my searching options. definatly something to look into. It has been a near impossible task to find these parts with out buying the whole transmission. I have traveled the whole state of Washington now..
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