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Old 11-06-2018, 11:50 PM   #51
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A recall is a one-time repair. Once the recall is done, the program is closed for your vehicle unless otherwise specified. In rare cases, recalls remain open until an actual repair is made.
Hmmm... Interesting...

So, IF I tell my dealer to not perform the recall, I can claim this in 10 years when a problem come down the road... Now, lets see how long for a recall is valid.
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Old 11-07-2018, 12:41 AM   #52
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Hmmm... Interesting...

So, IF I tell my dealer to not perform the recall, I can claim this in 10 years when a problem come down the road... Now, lets see how long for a recall is valid.
The vehicle legally belongs to you. Even though Ford is required to cover costs associated with the recall, if you refuse to have the recall done anything that happens as a result is your fault and Ford could refuse to cover it. I ran into that about a year ago with an Escape that had a recall on the ABS. There was an issue with the ABS connector that resulted in a "localized fire". The vehicle owner refused to have the recall done. The "localized fire" occurred and Ford refused coverage due to owner negligence. Also saw it happen with an F-150 with the cruise de-activation switch recall. A vehicle owner refused to have the recall done. The switch leaked, shorted and ignited. Ford refused coverage because the recall was 10 years old and it was documented by the dealer (as required) that the vehicle owner refused to have it done.

If your vehicle suffers the expected failure and it results in an accident, you could also be held legally responsible due to negligence.

In the end, whether or not to accept the possible risks is all on you. It is quite stupid to ignore a recall though.
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Hmmm... Interesting...



So, IF I tell my dealer to not perform the recall, I can claim this in 10 years when a problem come down the road... Now, lets see how long for a recall is valid.


Why would you not have the recall done? Itís a safety issue & also no one will buy a vehicle with an open recall. Actually, if you take the vehicle in for service maybe they would just fix the recall without even asking you. Iím not sure why they would need the owners permission to fix any recall, since itís not costing you a dime & itís there to keep you safe.


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Old 11-07-2018, 09:30 AM   #54
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The vehicle legally belongs to you. Even though Ford is required to cover costs associated with the recall, if you refuse to have the recall done anything that happens as a result is your fault and Ford could refuse to cover it. I ran into that about a year ago with an Escape that had a recall on the ABS. There was an issue with the ABS connector that resulted in a "localized fire". The vehicle owner refused to have the recall done. The "localized fire" occurred and Ford refused coverage due to owner negligence. Also saw it happen with an F-150 with the cruise de-activation switch recall. A vehicle owner refused to have the recall done. The switch leaked, shorted and ignited. Ford refused coverage because the recall was 10 years old and it was documented by the dealer (as required) that the vehicle owner refused to have it done.

If your vehicle suffers the expected failure and it results in an accident, you could also be held legally responsible due to negligence.

In the end, whether or not to accept the possible risks is all on you. It is quite stupid to ignore a recall though.
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Why would you not have the recall done? It’s a safety issue & also no one will buy a vehicle with an open recall. Actually, if you take the vehicle in for service maybe they would just fix the recall without even asking you. I’m not sure why they would need the owners permission to fix any recall, since it’s not costing you a dime & it’s there to keep you safe.


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I understand what you guys as saying...

The reason I said that is because I've replaced the valve already not too long ago by myself and I know the car is in good shape. If the valve stay open, I'll hear it because it click super fast so then I would take it to the dealer for the recall. I do most of the work on the car myself in general except the oil change because its cheaper at my dealer then me doing it (I got what they call a "VIP Oil Change card", it give almost 50% discount).

Assuming I do the recall today and the valve/tank is deformed in 2 years... Why would I pay for the repair since Ford knew the part is defective ? The recall AFAIK, if nothing wrong with your car, is just a PCM update.

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Old 11-08-2018, 12:54 AM   #55
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Was just at the dealer and they told me that if I'm not experiencing symptoms, to not have them do the review for this recall.

They said it's a "once and done" thing, so I should save it for when I'm experiencing symptoms.
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Old 11-12-2018, 03:00 PM   #56
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Wife just texted that her check engine light is on and car almost died at a stoplight.

Work 5 minutes from the Ford dealer so went and asked if we should bring it in or just fill the tank up until she had time to bring it in. Had a 1/4 tank in the picture she sent me.

Said they didn't have the valves in and would be a few days if that was all it needs but the gas tanks are backordered 2 months.
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I just took my 2012 into the dealer, they said they would only inspect the fuel tank and they wouldn't even do THAT unless I signed a release to pay for diagnostic work. I said I only want the recall done, the check engine came on, oh we won't even scan it without the release. I told them it was rediculous and drove away, so typical ford is having collapsing fuel tanks and this is the treatment I get. I suppose I"ll look into a purge valve myself and see how bad the tank is, hopefully the cannister isn't soaked with gas or worse. I can see with the rear O2 coming on the cat is probably ruined, my first and only new Ford. (there were a huge line of new F150's on the lifts at this place...)
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I just took my 2012 into the dealer, they said they would only inspect the fuel tank and they wouldn't even do THAT unless I signed a release to pay for diagnostic work. I said I only want the recall done, the check engine came on, oh we won't even scan it without the release. I told them it was rediculous and drove away, so typical ford is having collapsing fuel tanks and this is the treatment I get. I suppose I"ll look into a purge valve myself and see how bad the tank is, hopefully the cannister isn't soaked with gas or worse. I can see with the rear O2 coming on the cat is probably ruined, my first and only new Ford. (there were a huge line of new F150's on the lifts at this place...)
Do you have another Ford dealer near by?

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Quite a few ford dealers in the city I live in, I might call one and just ask on the phone this time before I go in.
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Personally I'd just wait until they have the procedure down. No sense in getting something done preemptively.
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