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Old 06-18-2015, 08:36 PM   #71
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OK, to follow the lead of your last post maybe my last was a little harsh after earlier helpful ones.

The reason for it is that your original diagnosis was for a clutch replacement, and the subject of this thread is TCM issues.

The symptoms & checks for that usually don't involve ANY codes, and it's covered under a different warranty extension that would cover the costs until 100k miles. gotta assume that your mileage is over that, or you wouldn't have been told it was a customer expense. THAT"S why it isn't currently an expense many have paid out of pocket to date, as opposed to the MANY you were assuming.

The clutch actuator motor Ford decided was the current issue is harder to diagnose, and it's normally only covered until 60k under the powertrain warranty - so getting help from Ford DID result in some "extra" warranty repair - asking didn't hurt.

The current guess on the TCM apparently hasn't been confirmed yet (I thought it had been before re-reading your posts). That's the item covered longer (10/150 now) and codes/warning lights/starting issues are some of the symptoms typically seen when that is involved.

At this point it sounds like a couple different issues may have occurred, hope it gets straightened out to your advantage soon.
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OK, to follow the lead of your last post maybe my last was a little harsh after earlier helpful ones.

The reason for it is that your original diagnosis was for a clutch replacement, and the subject of this thread is TCM issues.

The symptoms & checks for that usually don't involve ANY codes, and it's covered under a different warranty extension that would cover the costs until 100k miles. gotta assume that your mileage is over that, or you wouldn't have been told it was a customer expense. THAT"S why it isn't currently an expense many have paid out of pocket to date, as opposed to the MANY you were assuming.

The clutch actuator motor Ford decided was the current issue is harder to diagnose, and it's normally only covered until 60k under the powertrain warranty - so getting help from Ford DID result in some "extra" warranty repair - asking didn't hurt.

The current guess on the TCM apparently hasn't been confirmed yet (I thought it had been before re-reading your posts). That's the item covered longer (10/150 now) and codes/warning lights/starting issues are some of the symptoms typically seen when that is involved.

At this point it sounds like a couple different issues may have occurred, hope it gets straightened out to your advantage soon.
88,000 , miles on the car. I was just worked up that I would have to pay for the clutch when the wear on it is obviously caused by something going wrong in this janky transmission system. Yet they insist it didnt meet any criteria for a warranty replacement. Im not Sherlock Holmes.. but the breadcrumbs back to the cause of a worn clutch cant stray very far from the overall design of this transmission.

But alas here we are, seems you have more technical knowledge than I will ever have...and Im coming from a unsatisfied customer point of view, so there is that too....

Take care.
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Old 06-19-2015, 03:46 PM   #73
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Screwy part is that at 88k on a '12 I'd expect them to run any clutch replacement through the warranty system.

Can't guess from what you were told if they even tried to do that, which is where it gets a bit nuts.

I'll give up on speculating why the Dealer acted that way, just remember that you've got both clutch/Seals/programming warranty extension remaining as well as the longer TCM extension.

Try a different Dealer and/or give Ford a call in case of charges estimated for either of those areas.
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Well, I just dropped my car off at the dealer for 14M02. I had it there in January for 14M01.
I am having intermittent no start, no reverse, and losing gear while driving symptoms. I pulled the codes, cleaned the negative terminal on the frame, etc... everything points to the TCM issue to a T.
I am keeping my fingers crossed that I don't pay a cent. If I do, I'm selling this car and getting a Toyota, which is really disappointing because I love it.
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Well, I just dropped my car off at the dealer for 14M02. I had it there in January for 14M01.
I am having intermittent no start, no reverse, and losing gear while driving symptoms. I pulled the codes, cleaned the negative terminal on the frame, etc... everything points to the TCM issue to a T.
I am keeping my fingers crossed that I don't pay a cent. If I do, I'm selling this car and getting a Toyota, which is really disappointing because I love it.
You hit the nail on the head with your post, it is a great car if the DCT tranny could be fixed permanently.
I traded mine after watching so many people like yourself get fix after fix but nothing lasted. When my tranny was running right, the car was very, very quick, good on gas etc etc but I had zero confidence in Ford to make this right.
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I just got the car back from the dealer. It was the TCM... Convered under 14M02. I got props for calling it from the service rep :) That's two strikes against my ride. One more and it's outta here!
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I really do love my Focus

Although reading the horror stories on the internet about my car, I have still enjoyed driving it..by myself. I try to spare myself the embarrassment of friends hearing the girding shifts or the sensation of what feels like a 90's cab ride.
I had a VERY similar experience to post #31. I have an SE with 130,112 miles on it (a miracle) my "Transmission Malfunction" "Service Now" light and incessant beeping came on in my car this afternoon. Pulled over, let the car sit a minute, restarted, no light. Drove 30 more seconds, the light came back on. I spoke with a ford representative TWO WEEKS AGO, and was not informed of recall 14M02, or that it even existed. She said there was nothing more recent than the 14M01. After this incident this afternoon I have now discovered recall 14M02. My main concern is that when I enter my VIN to the ford website it only pulls up recall 14M01. I have a 2012 Focus SE. Is there any way mine is not covered by the recall? Please help, I have paid my car off, and would hate to sink any more money in it to get it up to par.
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Take it to the dealer asap and tell them you think it may be the TCM (transmission control module) and print out 14M02 and give it to them. If that is what they find then you are covered under 14M02. If they find something else they are going to charge you an hour diagnostic at first and then you will have to talk with them to decide on what to do from there. You really have nothing to lose. You're going to have to bite the bullet and make a decision sooner or later... problem is if you wait until later you increase the chances of collateral damage.
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Although reading the horror stories on the internet about my car, I have still enjoyed driving it..by myself. I try to spare myself the embarrassment of friends hearing the girding shifts or the sensation of what feels like a 90's cab ride.
I had a VERY similar experience to post #31. I have an SE with 130,112 miles on it (a miracle) my "Transmission Malfunction" "Service Now" light and incessant beeping came on in my car this afternoon. Pulled over, let the car sit a minute, restarted, no light. Drove 30 more seconds, the light came back on. I spoke with a ford representative TWO WEEKS AGO, and was not informed of recall 14M02, or that it even existed. She said there was nothing more recent than the 14M01. After this incident this afternoon I have now discovered recall 14M02. My main concern is that when I enter my VIN to the ford website it only pulls up recall 14M01. I have a 2012 Focus SE. Is there any way mine is not covered by the recall? Please help, I have paid my car off, and would hate to sink any more money in it to get it up to par.
Its not a recall, its an extension on the warranty. You should be covered.
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Well, I just put my 2012 Titanium in with 42,230~ miles on for the TCM problem.

The description of the issue:

I will start the car, if the issue is going to present itself then the car will have a delay before starting, and then give the CEL with the following codes: P087A P2831 P2832 P2836 P0805

Now I cannot move forward, or backwards despite the shifter position. In order to start the car and get it to actually move, I would now need to turn the car off and wait for EVERYTHING to power off, and then try start. Now there is some weird mechanical sound that will happen for 5-6 seconds and the car will start, and work as usual

Its a Salvage, so hopefully they don't tell me to pay for it. As this warranty extension specifically states it covers Salvage.

Does anyone have any idea how long this repair takes? Originally they said a week on the phone, but when booking it in he said he should get to take a look at it in a few days. I hope they order the part right away, as i'm paying for a rental
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