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Old 07-25-2014, 04:52 PM   #51
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True as it goes, but it doesn't answer the concern, which is: Does the new TSB (with the "Rev F" clutch pack) include new, improved seals? Because my second "Rev D" clutch replacement included replacement seals with the same part numbers as the first time they gave me new clutches. This does not give me confidence that my new seals will work -- they are the same as the old ones, which apparently did not.
Sounds like they didn't install the latest revision of the seals available at the time of your replacement. We may have to ask Makuloco2000 how many he's performed that have come back.
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True as it goes re clutch assembly version being irrelevant once seals leak, but it doesn't answer the concern, which is: Does the new TSB (with the "Rev F" clutch pack) include new, improved seals? Because my second "Rev D" clutch replacement included replacement seals with the same part numbers as the first time they gave me new clutches. This does not give me confidence that my new seals will work -- they are the same as the old ones, which apparently did not, unless, in fact, my new leak was the result of the "main" seal which is something different (obviously I am not an engineer).
The new clutch revision "F" now comes in a kit with the new seal. Per Brian, yes, it is a new seal with part identifier "D" The old seal had part identifier "C"
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The moment that F revision comes out, I may take a trip over to the 'ole dealer. I like how 'E' was skipped altogether.
The extended warranty covers the D series clutch pack so even if they continue to update the transmission over time whether it's F,G or whatever, the conclusion I draw is that Ford has high confidence that the D fix will address previous problems. So far, it has for me, so I couldn't care less if they come out with another update as long as mine works the way it's working now.
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The extended warranty covers the D series clutch pack so even if they continue to update the transmission over time whether it's F,G or whatever, the conclusion I draw is that Ford has high confidence that the D fix will address previous problems. So far, it has for me, so I couldn't care less if they come out with another update as long as mine works the way it's working now.
That's certainly a glass half full view of things.

My own suspicion is they are taking a wait and see approach pending more data on the later builds, but will eventually end up having to add them to the warranty as well.
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Well I dropped my 2012 off yesterday 7/25 since I had shudder and grinding at 27k on the odometer. I called today to check on status and was told they are still working on it and it will probably need a new clutch.....We will see if the new info that was release a few days ago is applied to my car. I was told it would be Wednesday before I may get my car back.....
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Thank you. Were there any obvious differences you could see between them?
They are now brown instead of black which may just be a color or another material that can handle higher heat ranges better. The browns sure do work.

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Have you ever witnessed or heard of a DCT clutch shuddering (chattering?) that has not had leaking seals?
Yes many times and that is why the clutch has had many revisions also otherwise they would just keep revising the seals only until the clutch housing was dry.
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They are now brown instead of black which may just be a color or another material that can handle higher heat ranges better. The browns sure do work.

Yes many times and that is why the clutch has had many revisions also otherwise they would just keep revising the seals only until the clutch housing was dry.
Thank you for the clarification. Just wondering, do you feel Ford has found a solution for the leaking seals and the clutch shudder? How many brown seal sets has your service department installed have returned for leakage?

We have at least a few on FocusFanatics that feel Ford is making zero progress in the DCT seal leaking and clutch chatter problems. I find it interesting that you differ from others by saying the brown seals work.
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Thank you for the clarification. Just wondering, do you feel Ford has found a solution for the leaking seals and the clutch shudder? How many brown seal sets has your service department installed have returned for leakage?
Refer back to the discussion several months ago - before the latest round of parts were made public:

http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/s....php?p=6047058
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Too little, too late.

Any chance that I can get re-imbursed by Ford for having to dump their piece of junk car at a huge loss? LOL

The thing is that the transmission was only one infuriating aspect of that car. Even if the transmission gave no trouble, there would still be suspension noises, creaking sheetmetal in the door hinge area, peeling chrome (razor sharp!) on the steering wheel, and before I got rid of it, squealing bearings in the heater blower motor.

It cost me a lot to trade in that car, but it was worth every penny. I hated it and it was making me miserable.

The Subaru that replaced it now has 14,000 miles on it and not a single issue.
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Yep, some of them have problems. So what does this have to do with seals and clutches?
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