Ford Focus Forum, Ford Focus ST Forum, Ford Focus RS Forum

Ford Focus Forum, Ford Focus ST Forum, Ford Focus RS Forum (https://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/)
-   MK3 TSB, Recall & Problems Archive (https://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/mk3-tsb-recall-problems-archive/)
-   -   2012+ Transmission Shudder Issue Explained (https://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/mk3-tsb-recall-problems-archive/411722-2012-transmission-shudder-issue-explained.html)

makuloco2000 05-01-2014 11:24 PM

2012+ Transmission Shudder Issue Explained
 
Many of you are experiencing this concern on your new focus with auto trans. There are many issues with this trans. I explain what is going on and how to get the dealer to fix it already!

YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.

focusETSzx4 05-02-2014 11:33 AM

I wonder if this is what my 2012 focus se is doing. it has a slight hesitation when accelerating, but it doesn't seem to affect overall driveability. just something annoying I happened to notice after I bought the car [wrenchin]

slybarman 05-02-2014 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makuloco2000 (Post 6000282)
Many of you are experiencing this concern on your new focus with auto trans. There are many issues with this trans. I explain what is going on and how to get the dealer to fix it already!

YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.


Lots of truth in this video on many points. Thanks. Have you heard word that another revision of clutch pack and seals is in the works?

makuloco2000 05-02-2014 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by focusETSzx4 (Post 6003066)
I wonder if this is what my 2012 focus se is doing. it has a slight hesitation when accelerating, but it doesn't seem to affect overall driveability. just something annoying I happened to notice after I bought the car [wrenchin]

This is likely your concern yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by slybarman (Post 6004210)
Lots of truth in this video on many points. Thanks. Have you heard word that another revision of clutch pack and seals is in the works?

At this point in time the seals and clutches have been the same since aug 2013 so I think they have made it work!

slybarman 05-05-2014 06:59 AM

Is there a second video that showed the transmission pulled apart?

makuloco2000 05-07-2014 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slybarman (Post 6021602)
Is there a second video that showed the transmission pulled apart?

Yes here-
YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.

slybarman 05-07-2014 10:17 AM

Really interesting video. Thank you for making and posting. I interpreted that the gist of the problem, as you see it then, was a design defect in the original black seals. A few quick questions if I may:

1) have you ever had a car with the brown seals come back in again with a shudder and/or leak? If so, why?

2) there have been at least some accounts of shuddering issues in 2014 model year cars which presumably would have had the brown seals already. How might you account for those?

3) what changes did ford make to the clutch packs between revisions a and e? I believe e is still the latest, correct?

4) if further refinements to the seals or clutch pack were in the works by ford, would you have necessarily heard about it or do they just find their way into parts stream when ready.

5) you stated that you believe all of the black seals will eventually fail if they have not already, why wouldn't Ford initiate a recall?

makuloco2000 05-08-2014 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slybarman (Post 6038010)
Really interesting video. Thank you for making and posting. I interpreted that the gist of the problem, as you see it then, was a design defect in the original black seals. A few quick questions if I may:

1) have you ever had a car with the brown seals come back in again with a shudder and/or leak? If so, why?

Never

2) there have been at least some accounts of shuddering issues in 2014 model year cars which presumably would have had the brown seals already. How might you account for those?

Software issues, imperfect clutches design.

3) what changes did ford make to the clutch packs between revisions a and e? I believe e is still the latest, correct?

I have only seen D as the latest for fiesta and focus. They don't get into the details of how they fix the clutch. It is an over complicated designed dual clutch setup with many areas for failure and noise issues.

4) if further refinements to the seals or clutch pack were in the works by ford, would you have necessarily heard about it or do they just find their way into parts stream when ready.

When ready they put them out, but as stated the seals haven't changed color not part number since aug indicating it is a good known fix.

5) you stated that you believe all of the black seals will eventually fail if they have not already, why wouldn't Ford initiate a recall?

IDK it is up to them and the NTHSA to recall them on a safety concern.

slybarman 05-08-2014 02:49 PM

Thank you.

TooOld 05-08-2014 10:19 PM

So I assume my Oct 2013 build date will have the newest / latest brown seals. Can I assume the transaxle is also Oct 2013 or Sep 2013 at the worst?

I hope Ford isn't receiving transaxles that have been assembled many months prior to vehicle assembly.

I've noticed no problems on my 2014, but then again, I only have a hair over 1k miles, so it sounds like I still have quite a bit of break in remaining.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:21 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.1
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.