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Old 05-08-2014, 11:28 PM   #11
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I didn't think I'd actually spend 45 minutes watching this, but I did. Not really sure why because I don't own one and have no interest in owning one. Guess it plays to my curiosity and your ability to explain things.
I must say, again, good video.

I am guessing that the color of the seals plays to material design. Black is generally Nitrile Rubber and brown would be PTFE Rubber (rubber being figurative). Each has a specif temp range it works best at as well as a shaft speed (relating back to heat / from friction). Basically, the brown seal can handle more temp and should have less chance of overheating and becoming brittle and leaking.
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That is great, thanks a million!
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Old 05-09-2014, 07:57 AM   #13
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So in other words what your video says is those of us who's warranty is almost up and haven't had a bad shutter yet or signs of a leak are going to SOL soon when it does inevitably leak. Awesome. All because of 2 seals that likely cost $2 each when the car was built.

Unless Ford issues a recall on these soon I'll be trading mine in for something that is not a Ford. It's the 1980s all over again where Ford has no problem burning customers for life over what was otherwise a really good car.
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So in other words what your video says is those of us who's warranty is almost up and haven't had a bad shutter yet or signs of a leak are going to SOL soon when it does inevitably leak. Awesome. All because of 2 seals that likely cost $2 each when the car was built.

Unless Ford issues a recall on these soon I'll be trading mine in for something that is not a Ford. It's the 1980s all over again where Ford has no problem burning customers for life over what was otherwise a really good car.
With respect to your first paragraph, that is certainly how I would take it.

With respect to the recall, I think the OP raised a good point. While this sucks butt, it probably hasn't been enough of a safety issue to warrant NHTSA attention and therefore a recall seems unlikely.
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Ford is not the first to have done something like this. Chrysler did something similar in the 90's with truck transmissions that were flawed. They had the new design on the shelf, but for years afterwards sold trucks with the "sure to fail" transmission. VW sold hundreds of thousands of Jetta 1.8 engines with heads that would sometimes crack under warranty. In order not to hurt the brand name in Europe, all the flawed cylinder heads were shipped to Brazil for the American market, and the factory warranty decreased, and the optional warranty cost increased to reflect the cost of the cylinder head replacement. I had a friend whose wife totalled a Civic Si because a rotor shattered after 20k miles causing her to make a sharp turn into a ditch. Guess what? Honda refused to help out, so they were stuck with paying for a scrap car.

There isn't a single auto maker out there who really cares about you. Good luck with whomever you choose. Any of them can make a winner and any of them can make a loser. Even super reliable car models can be a lemon. I knew a guy who had a Cressida, and I know several with Lexus' that spend as much time in the shop as they do on the road. It happens to all of them.
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Somehow I take no comfort in that.
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Other then the oil leaks , I have found 95% of the issues in the software , If the slip is more then 250 it can be cured with a tune among other things

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Is the process starting at 24:30 only done with the Ford tool? I.e. a PCU reset won't go through this process right? The adaptive learning process sounds like it measures certain parameters, then sets those parameters (in firmware?).

I believe the video calls it "TCM adaptive learning" and it sounds like only the Ford tool executes this procedure.

What happens if a tech physically replaces the clutch pack, and does not go through this process?
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How much do you guys think this would cost to replace the old seals with the new ones? I would like to prevent those issues.
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Threads in the MkIII section estimated clutches/seals at $1500, not something you'd do as a "preventative" to avoid paying for the same repair.
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