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Old 09-30-2019, 07:22 PM   #1
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glad Ford got pushed to extend DPS6 warranty

I just had my 2014 Focus SE in for purge canister check valve and had them test my DPS6 since mines now covered in the customer satisfaction program. What do you know my Focus is getting new clutch packs at 61,000 miles via warranty. I love everything about this car except the tranny performance. Now the decision is 1. get rid of it with low miles and new clutches? or 2. keep it and hope it stays good past 100,000 miles which will come about in about 2 years of my commute.


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Now the decision is

1. get rid of it with low miles and new clutches? or

2. keep it and hope it stays good past 100,000 miles which will come about in about 2 years of my commute.
Lift up the radiator cap and drive a new car under it and then screw the cap back on. Seriously, I would unload it. I had a 2012 with the DPS6 that was plagued with tranny shudder. Got rid of it and bought a 2013 Focus SE Hatch with a 5 speed manual and it was a pure pleasure to drive.

What is so sad is you have to wonder what would have happened if Ford had sold the Focus with a conventional planetary automatic? It is such a great little car in every other respect.
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What is so sad is you have to wonder what would have happened if Ford had sold the Focus with a conventional planetary automatic? It is such a great little car in every other respect.
I wonder that very thing all the time and still do not understand why they did not make that adjustment as soon as they realized the scope of the problem, which we now know was fairly early on.
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I'd sell it private party while it's running okay. Get something that doesn't have the Ford DCT.
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Yeah,sell it. It's just a band-aid and problems will show up again.
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I'd sell it private party while it's running okay. Get something that doesn't have the Ford DCT.


Thatís my plan. I already scheduled an appt. for early October to have the trans & clutch serviced/repaired & I want to see how it drives & if the shuddering stops for the short term. If it does then itís the best time to place an ad & get rid of it, since whatever they do doesnít fix anything however if I remember correctly after my last clutch repair, it did drive better in the short term.



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Old 10-02-2019, 08:17 AM   #7
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Seriously, I would unload it. I had a 2012 with the DPS6 that was plagued with tranny shudder.
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Yeah,sell it. It's just a band-aid and problems will show up again.
Actually, I'm going to disagree here...though with the caveat that I'm assuming you bought new. Yep, the DPS6 is a piece of sh!t and this won't be the last clutch pack you need before it hits 100k.

But if you bought new, you're already taking a bath and you're getting new clutches, so why not just keep driving it? Unless you find a sucker - which, based on the "should I buy this Focus" posts over on reddit, there are quite a few of them - resale value's in the toilet. It's worth more as a DD, IMO, and it's possible (albeit unlikely) that the result of the NHTSA investigation and/or a class action in the next couple of years will give you a better outcome than simply unloading it on some poor soul who didn't do their homework.

Your post makes it sound like this is your first clutch pack replacement at 61k miles. Compare that to mine, where I had 3 replacements by 58k miles. That means that the stock software actually works halfway well with your particular transmission. You might be able to get right up to 100k before needing another replacement. Seems to me that resale is already so bad that going another 40k miles / 2 years isn't going to reduce its value by a whole lot. If you enjoy driving it...just drive it.

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Yep. I genuinely enjoy driving it! I've done all the small mods - snorkel delete, AEM Dryflow filter, enabling Sport mode via FORscan, eRMM replacement - and together they've made it even more of a pleasure. It's only when the clutch plates wear out that it sucks.

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I wonder that very thing all the time and still do not understand why they did not make that adjustment as soon as they realized the scope of the problem, which we now know was fairly early on.
Oh, I can tell you why: money. It always comes down to money. Remember, the DPS6 was available in Fiestas and Focuses, and not just in North America, but all over the world. Ford really went big with the DPS6, and it laid a giant fart. Between sunk costs of R&D and surplus parts, Ford knew it couldn't just up and quit the DPS6 without losing a ton of money.

So they consolidated: with the 2015 refresh, they stopped offering the DPS6 everywhere but NA. I can guarantee that they scaled down production and started using their stockpile of transmissions. They gambled (well, are still gambling) because they know the US is the most corporation-friendly of their markets and since they had already decided (though not yet publicly announced) their decision to stop selling cars in the NA market, they figured they might as well dump their garbage here.

From their perspective, what's the worst that happens? You won't buy a Ford car? Who cares! They won't have any! So they were going to lose your business, anyway.
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Oh, I can tell you why: money. It always comes down to money. Remember, the DPS6 was available in Fiestas and Focuses, and not just in North America, but all over the world. Ford really went big with the DPS6, and it laid a giant fart. Between sunk costs of R&D and surplus parts, Ford knew it couldn't just up and quit the DPS6 without losing a ton of money.

So they consolidated: with the 2015 refresh, they stopped offering the DPS6 everywhere but NA. I can guarantee that they scaled down production and started using their stockpile of transmissions. They gambled (well, are still gambling) because they know the US is the most corporation-friendly of their markets and since they had already decided (though not yet publicly announced) their decision to stop selling cars in the NA market, they figured they might as well dump their garbage here.

From their perspective, what's the worst that happens? You won't buy a Ford car? Who cares! They won't have any! So they were going to lose your business, anyway.
Even in my part of the world (HK) Ford stopped selling the Focus besides the RS since 2016. The smallest Ford available is the Kuga (Escape). Ford literally banked on small cars being dead in three years after the refresh year of 2015. So supporting these DCT cars until 100,000 miles would be enough given how most people would have their cars traded in way before that mark or in three years. rczrider is right in that stopping small car production in 2018 is well planned ahead for Ford. Besides, in North America small cars always get the shaft end of the stick anyways compared to the army of crossovers and pickup trucks.

So all you DCT owners could dream of finally getting a lawyer to represent your case, only to have Ford shut you down completely given their armada of lawyers and how your Fiestas/Focuses are irrelevant by now due to their age and market value.
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Old 10-02-2019, 12:11 PM   #9
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Id sell it personally, they depreciate a crap ton. so you may as well try to sell it now. If you like driving stick, the 5 Speed Foci are very dependable!
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Old 10-02-2019, 01:54 PM   #10
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they depreciate a crap ton. so you may as well try to sell it now
The OP's is a 5-year old 2014 SE. It's already depreciated a crap-ton. What's the value on it now? $4k? $5k? Assuming they get the same life out of the second clutch pack that they did out of the first (60k miles), how much more will it depreciate in 2 years? Certainly less than the they'll save just driving it.

There's no longer a bullet to dodge. The value's already in the toilet.
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