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Old 09-26-2019, 09:11 PM   #51
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You are correct it is practically a long term rent, it is also the recommended way to drive a new car without having to empty the wallet on electronic repairs and maintenance.

Used cars from the mid-2000s when it's electronically-minimalistic though...
My mom has a 2014 Hyundai sonata with 100,000 trouble-free miles.
I just don't agree with your opinion it's financial suicide to have a constant car payment. Buy a car and keep it for at least 10 years. I keep my cars till they go to the junkyard.

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Old 09-26-2019, 09:18 PM   #52
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My mom has a 2014 Hyundai sonata with 100,000 trouble-free miles.
I just don't agree with your opinion it's financial suicide to have a constant car payment. Buy a car and keep it for at least 10 years. I keep my cars till they go to the junkyard.
I would have driven my Focus until the wheels fell off had I not move out of country.

Back to the topic though, the Hyundai Sonata has a rather simple torque-converter automatic. What I'm referring to are cars with high maintenance costs - Ford DCTs (or any dry clutch DCTs), BMW M cars etc.

But until most of the general public knows the difference between torque converters and DCTs and CVTs rather then “its just an automatic", just lease the car so there's less worry on what to fix when things go wrong.
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Old 09-26-2019, 09:20 PM   #53
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We see the world very differently financially. That's okay though.

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We see the world very differently financially. That's okay though.
Actually I agree with driving a car until its ready for the scrapyard. I just wonder if it is also a financial disaster driving a new car like a Focus with a DCT and be hit with clutch repairs every year.

But then again, I have never bought a new car or any car worth more than $20k brand new MSRP.
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Old 09-26-2019, 09:36 PM   #55
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two types of vehicles nobody should touch any vehicle with a dry dual-clutch transmission, and a Nissan with a CVT transmission.
My 2010 Ford Focus is to the point age wise if it ever suffers transmission or engine failure I would junkyard it. I learned my lesson on my 96 Ford escort ones a car gets to a certain age unless it's a nice vehicle it doesn't make sense to throw a engine or transmission at it.


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Old 09-27-2019, 07:34 AM   #56
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Can someone help me I cant figure out how to start my own post and its pissing me off just about as much as this focus


Just download the TT app on your smartphone & add Focus Fanatics to that app. Itís very user friendly & easy to start new topics etc. I donít think Iíve ever logged on to the PC version.



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Old 09-27-2019, 08:03 AM   #57
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Hindsight is 20/20, however it wouldíve been smart for me to just keep my Ď05 ZX5, to which ran perfectly & only had 73k miles, but oh well, Iím stuck with this DCT now, so Iíll take it back into the dealer here next month & get the transmission serviced or repaired again.

I didnít do my homework back in 2014 when I bought a new Focus Hatch. I bought the car because of how nice it looked & knew nothing about the DCT or what it is, a very stupid way to buy a car & lesson learned.



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So I cant make a post? **** this website
Patience young Fordawan. Lol, j/k, I see your post count is at 6... if I'm not mistaken there is a post count minimum where you cannot create new posts until you have "contributed to the community" enough, aka posted like 10 times anywhere on the site. Might not be 10, but it something like that.
Browse around, post comments, make friends, then post till your hearts content.
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Thanks to the last Customer Satisfaction Program I was able to get back the money I paid for the last two clutch replacements (one had a special "warranty" pricing even though I had no extended warranty and the last was full price). When the letter came two weeks ago it had a blurb about "might be eligible for a refund of money already paid for repairs", so I called the dealer and made an appt to talk. I also paid out of pocket for stuff relating to the purge valve recall, so brought that paperwork along with me too. The service manager said he would submit to Ford and it would take about a week to get an answer. He called back in a couple hours saying it was approved, and I got a check for almost $2000. So at least I'm not out that!
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Old 09-27-2019, 01:46 PM   #60
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The only real effective way to "own" a new car is to lease it. That way any problem is covered by the warranty or the dealer.
That's throwing away money in most cases. Do your research, buy a reliable vehicle and maintain it. The vast majority of the time, anyone doing that is going to get 100K+ miles easy before having to shell out big money for repairs. At 120K+ miles, I've dropped under $200 in repairs (mount and an O2 sensor).

I had an 06 Sienna with 160K+ miles on it. It needed a steering rack and a radiator, but otherwise it was rock solid.
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