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Old 07-29-2019, 05:08 AM   #1
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Hello,

I just purchased a 2015 Ford Focus SE Hatchback with the infamous DTC.

I love it so far. Took it on a country road at 6 am on a Sunday and tour up the roads of central maine. The car performed great. I use the manual shift 85% of the time. Ironically the Free press article came out 2 days after I purchased it and gave me a bit of a scare. I spent a whole day of researching and have come up with a conclusion.

How many of you were explained by the dealer how the DTC works and how it can't be driven like a normal everyday automatic transmission?

IMO I think the transmission is great but wears early and cause problems because of bad user driving habits and the fact that Ford never explained that it should be ( in layman's terms) driven like a manual.

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Hello,

I just purchased a 2015 Ford Focus SE Hatchback with the infamous DTC.

I love it so far. Took it on a country road at 6 am on a Sunday and tour up the roads of central maine. The car performed great. I use the manual shift 85% of the time. Ironically the Free press article came out 2 days after I purchased it and gave me a bit of a scare. I spent a whole day of researching and have come up with a conclusion.

How many of you were explained by the dealer how the DTC works and how it can't be driven like a normal everyday automatic transmission?

IMO I think the transmission is great but wears early and cause problems because of bad user driving habits and the fact that Ford never explained that it should be ( in layman's terms) driven like a manual.

Thoughts, comments, concerns??
It's not an automatic, so it shouldn't be labeled as one. Dealers should be educated on this, not just tell customers that they ain't driving right. One gave me this attitude and I didn't bother taking a 2014 Focus SE.

But since most people don't have a flippin' clue between what is a DCT/CVT/toque-converter automatic, what do I know...
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It's not an automatic, so it shouldn't be labeled as one. Dealers should be educated on this, not just tell customers that they ain't driving right. One gave me this attitude and I didn't bother taking a 2014 Focus SE.

But since most people don't have a flippin' clue between what is a DCT/CVT/toque-converter automatic, what do I know...
A good percentage of ppl just want a automatic, throw it in drive & let it shift for itself.... Your correct on many ppl don't have a clue, but then why should they? Why should they have to shift it? I've driven a few of the early ones & a later one, put yourself in what the mass ppl want & it sure isn't a this trans.
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People who don't buy sticks want an automatic. It's beyond ridiculous that owners would have to learn to drive their automatic "like a manual." The Focus is an econobox. It shouldn't require special care by the owner.

Shame on Ford for this shitshow.
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People who don't buy sticks want an automatic. It's beyond ridiculous that owners would have to learn to drive their automatic "like a manual." The Focus is an econobox. It shouldn't require special care by the owner.

Shame on Ford for this shitshow.
This. It is completely unacceptable for Ford - or any of the various buffoons on the internet - to claim that people should be driving their cars differently.

Yes, the DPS6 is what it is: a dry DCT. It's going to feel different than a slushbox, even if you ignore the defective components found in earlier models.

Ford clearly knew that customers did not want a dry DCT that felt like a dry DCT, otherwise they wouldn't have tried so hard to "fix" the DPS6 with programming. While I think it's Ford itself - not the dealerships - who are most at fault here, it was downright deceptive to sell the DPS6 as an "automatic with better fuel economy".
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Maybe it was deceptive of ford to sell it as a “automatic with better fuel economy” but you also have an obligation as a consumer to at least partially understand what you are buying. It’s a relationship between companies and consumers. If a company makes something, and you and other consumers don’t like it and don’t buy it they won’t make it anymore.
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No, it is an automatic. I don’t have to clutch whenever I want to switch gears.
And yes you do have to learn how to drive your transmission, just the same way you learn where and when to brake on your favorite canyon road so you don’t end up in a guard rail or over the edge. The idea that you shouldn’t have to learn how to drive a car that you buy is ridiculous. Every car is different and how you drive it is sometimes the difference between life and death or a very expensive repair cost or not.
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A good percentage of ppl just want a automatic, throw it in drive & let it shift for itself.... Your correct on many ppl don't have a clue, but then why should they? Why should they have to shift it? I've driven a few of the early ones & a later one, put yourself in what the mass ppl want & it sure isn't a this trans.
This^^^^^^^Thanx to Ford for continuing down this dct path & losing customers & all the issues that went w/ it. This is a mass market vehicle w/ a wide variety of ppl buying it. I'd expect the mass ppl to throw it in drive & go. Why would anyone expect anything different. What I don't get is why Ford kept on going down the failed dct path vs throwing in their proven atx from the previous model, yeah they possibly wouldn't of gotten the mpg they were looking for, but they also wouldn't have a good percentage of ppl bitching about this failed trans. & losing consumers in the process. Yeah I get it, some ppl just remember the negatives of one model in the whole manufactures line up & say no more of so & so's vehicles, when they might & perhaps makes other great vehicles in their line up, but thats just the way most ppl think nowadays.
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Don't get me wrong, it's Ford's responsibility to explain to the consumer that it is different from a normal automatic. I'm not trying to take any blame away from them. I believe they have to do something about it. I'm just saying let's not blame the transmission for being misused. I enjoy the feel of it and it brings a driving experience I haven't had in a long time.

I bought my 2015 with 38k and there's no evidence of a clutch replacement. I understand by 2015 a lot of the "bugs" where filtered out of the DTC transmission but so far so good

I hope Ford does the right thing but in today's world the consumer will be blamed and it's unfortunate for the people unknowingly buying this product not knowing what they were into
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Kind of ironic that they designed these cars with DCTs so that they would be more economical but if you drive them in an economical fashion, you're doing it wrong and will damage the DCT. I personally don't drive mine like a grandma but sometimes when you are in stop and go traffic, you can't drive it in a way that keeps the clutch problems at bay.
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