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MalContentGA 05-03-2019 10:04 PM

Realistically how much power am I able to get out of my 14 Focus Titanium Hatch?
 
Hey guys, so over the winter I bought a 14 focus titanium hatchback because of the features, price, and cheap insurance but after driving it for almost 6 months now (and being influenced by my new "car guy" friends) I am annoyed with the lack of power and the lag from when I press the gas to when I go. Is there a "simple" way to get power out of my car, I am working on a budget so this would include parts at about $450. With an intake, exhaust, coilovers, wheels, and tune would the power gain be worth the price, or is it worth selling my car while it's still worth some money and going for a cheaper fixer-upper of a car to mod (Integra?????).

Thanks in advance for the help.

DudeInTheRubyFocus 05-03-2019 10:07 PM

Turbo kit for $3200 is for sale by Nbergeron but thats out your budget. So no, realistically you cant get lots out of it for $450. If you want power on a budget try a different car. I still mod my Focus because it's all I can afford. Still fun. Still get compliments.

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Pokerrun388 05-04-2019 09:17 AM

Who buys a Focus Titanium to go fast? Itís a budget commuter car, trust me I have one. Itís sluggish & awful on acceleration but the tradeoff is you get 30+ mpg & use 87.

If you want to go faster then youíll need to buy a Focus ST.



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pintoman 05-04-2019 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pokerrun388 (Post 11377317)
Who buys a Focus Titanium to go fast? It’s a budget commuter car, trust me I have one. It’s sluggish & awful on acceleration but the tradeoff is you get 30+ mpg & use 87.

If you want to go faster then you’ll need to buy a Focus ST.



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Everyone says that their Focus is sluggish, I have a Focus Ti and it's quick.....I passed a car within seconds I was doing 100mph (just like a friend's '78 Porsche Carrera Turbo back in '82)and still climbing but shut it down as not to get ticket. Even when passing, it's like a rocket...all in the auto trans gearing I guess!

zacautomotive 05-04-2019 08:23 PM

Come drive my Fiesta ST. The Focus is a slow car in today's world. Most trucks today can take off like Hell.

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Pokerrun388 05-04-2019 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pintoman (Post 11377391)
Everyone says that their Focus is sluggish, I have a Focus Ti and it's quick.....I passed a car within seconds I was doing 100mph (just like a friend's '78 Porsche Carrera Turbo back in '82)and still climbing but shut it down as not to get ticket. Even when passing, it's like a rocket...all in the auto trans gearing I guess!



Iím not trying to be rude or anything, but a standard Focus is not fast whatsoever in todayís day-n-age bro. Sure, its a small car & acceleration may seem fast, but have you ever driven a Fiesta ST or Focus ST?

Btw, the Titanium is just the trim, itís still the same engine & transmission. Your average V6 car would blow away a Focus 2.0L 160HP Engine. The Fiesta ST & Focus STís are so reasonably priced that if youíre trying to go faster then you should consider buying one of those & the STís also look much better.




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soviet911 05-06-2019 07:11 AM

The regular focus is actualy not too bad, compare it to a Corolla or Nissan or other equivalent econobox, out of all of them it was the most responsive car for the price/economy when i was test driving it, even an impreza was slugish in comparison. But i think this is primarily due to CVT transmissions being so bad... My SE is plenty quick for day to day driving up to 40 mph, after that i start to miss my turbo Saab...
But to OP, it's really hard to get any additional power out of naturally aspirated car on the cheap today, the timing is probably well optimized and so is intake and exhaust, with tuned intake, exhaust and returned ECU for then new parts u might push out another 20-40 hp tops...and it will cost 1k min...unless u do it all your self. I imagine to get more out of this engine you would need to up compression or get a turbo/super charger on it...it's really not worth it IMO as it will severely reduce engine reliability without major parts replacement...

As others suggested save your money toward an ST or another sportified econobox car. It will be better in everyway then a moded SE and more reliable...( For example the ST has different suspension setup then just simple springs and shocks changes. And i do not believe it's trivial to swap in St suspension into an SE/Titanium). Same as dumping a turbo kit into a titanum, the St engine likely has lower compression ratios and better piston/valves/injectors to take the abuse then the N/A motor...

AdhesiveTeflon 05-06-2019 09:12 AM

N/A 4 cyl cars won't gain much from just bolt on modifications. If you're looking for a cheap and easy way to get power from a 4 cyl (that does't include an ebay turbo) then you should look at something that comes from the factory with a turbo.

felixthecat 05-06-2019 10:35 AM

[QUOTE=Pokerrun388;11377317]Who buys a Focus Titanium to go fast? Itís a budget commuter car, trust me I have one. Itís sluggish & awful on acceleration but the tradeoff is you get 30+ mpg & use 87.

If you want to go faster then youíll need to buy a Focus ST.



This^^^^^^^

SupraGuy 05-06-2019 11:24 AM

Realistically, what's your budget?

I mean you can probably find someone who would be willing to drop in a V8 with forced induction for enough money, and convert to AWD, but then you're spending way more than you could have just bought a faster car for.

If you go turbocharged, you can generally get about 25-30% more power before you have to start changing much more expensive things, but it will come at a cost in reliability. With the turbo, you should be looking at an upgrade in engine management already. You;d probably do better running E85 fuel, too, since it's much more detonation resistant.

Yeah, I know, you can go much higher than that in performance, but that 25% mark seems to be pretty much the most that a bolt-on kit will get you hit the steep part of the price/performance curve, and you'd have been better off starting with a different platform.

With the DCT, there don't seem to be a lot of choices for the clutch, so once you exceed the holding torque of the stock clutch, you hit a wall there and then. More power will only slip at the clutch, and burn it out, so at that point, you're looking for a manual swap with a high torque clutch available.

For normally aspirated upgrades, you can only go so far, and beyond some very simple things, they start getting spendy fast. Few bolt-ons will actually improve performance much, most are only good for "sticker power" in the end. (~10 HP from an air filter? I don't THINK so.)

I used to build V8s in my youth, but those were carburated, and there were things that you could do. Mind you, back then, if we could get near 1 BHP/cubic inch, we thought that we were doing pretty good. More than that almost always meant forced aspiration. Modern fuel injected cars are already well beyond that range from the factory, so there's a lot less for a backyard tuner to do.

tl;dr: Same as above. If you wanted fast, you should have bought the ST.


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