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Old 04-29-2019, 02:20 PM   #31
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Don't confuse the outrageous price that a dealer INITIALLY slaps on a used car with what you could actually get. 38K is nice, but you don't have a highly collectible/desired car. It's not a Shelby Mustang. If you get offered $9K, snatch it from the person's hand and run.


If someone offered me 9k Id literally laugh at them as I drove away. I can get that much from Carmax. Titanium Hatchbacks are rare, especially with my wheels & pristine overall condition. I might consider 12k, depending on my mood that day.



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Old 04-29-2019, 02:52 PM   #32
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If someone offered me 9k I’d literally laugh at them as I drove away. I can get that much from Carmax. Titanium Hatchbacks are rare, especially with my wheels & pristine overall condition. I might consider 12k, depending on my mood that day.



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FYI, overall condition of a car doesn't affect trade-in as much as you think. Most dealerships use a national average to calculate trade-in values.

Just because you think your car is "perfect" doesn't mean that anyone is going to pay what you think it's worth.

You can buy ST3's with as many miles for the same price you think your Titanium is worth.

Edit: You've basically brought an empty bladder to a pissing contest.
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Here I have for you a pristine Ford Focus with a slipping DCT transmission that will be $15,000 my good Sir. What a idiot. I can literally buy a Toyota Camry mid-range model just a few years old with low mileage for the price you want.

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Old 04-29-2019, 04:59 PM   #34
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https://www.thedrive.com/the-hammer/...lost-the-focus

The two-year-old car with 20,000 miles in this article was sold at $9,000 even though it MSRPs' at $18,000. Kelley Blue Book values your car at around $9500 from what I've read so far. Your car is a 2013 model but with a slipping dual clutch given your posts so that might not help in your favor.
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Old 04-30-2019, 09:06 AM   #35
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The two-year-old car with 20,000 miles in this article was sold at $9,000 even though it MSRPs' at $18,000. Kelley Blue Book values your car at around $9500 from what I've read so far. Your car is a 2013 model but with a slipping dual clutch given your posts so that might not help in your favor.




That car is a basic Focus SE with no options & ugly wheels. The Titanium trim w/ the factory black 18 wheels will always carry more value & curb appeal.

Show me a 2013-2016 Titanium Hatchback, one owner, under 40k miles & no accidents for under 10k? Youll be looking all day. $12-16k is about the asking price for a low mileage Titanium, not a basic SE.



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A Focus SE will always have less value vs. a Titanium Focus. An ST1 will always be less than an ST3. Assuming all of the mentioned vehicles are low mileage, one owner, clean carfax, no damage, signs, etc. You makes make me laugh.



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This is a 9k car? Haha! Nope. Try 14k. It looks just like an ST, yet I have all the options of the ST3. 9k is an insult really. MSRP is 27k.



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Old 04-30-2019, 09:25 AM   #38
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I've said it before. The price of a thing is the point where the buyer is willing to offer enough money for the seller to part with it.

Personally, I doubt that anyone will pay Pokerrun's price, particularly considering his posts about how it drives like crap. Whether the transmission is slipping, or just has the typical DCT issues.

I bought my 2012 Titanium with 120,000 km (~75,000 miles) in February for $9000 CAD, so that's about $7,500 USD. I bought it from a dealer who added in oil changes for the next 3 years, and added a policy for paint and glass (rock chip repairs, door dings.) I would NEVER have paid that much for the car in a private sale, and I'd bet that the previous owner didn't get half that. My wheels might not be that unusual, but they are the 18" wheels, so they definitely factored into the price. I'm pretty sure that for 2012, I have a pretty full load-out.

Also, when I picked it up, the car drove fine, without apparent issue. We'll ignore what happened in the subsequent weeks for purposes of its price, because that was definitely in the realm of that which I would not have predicted, but someone who is shopping for a Focus (And who else would pay top dollar for one?) would probably not have been as surprised. In any case, there were no obvious problems with how the car drove when I picked it up.

So my car is a little older, and has a little more mileage on it, but as it appears, I actually have more factory warranty left, for whatever reason, since I was able to get warranty service for my DCT clutches, TCM and input shaft seal. Had the dealer wante more for the Focus... I'd have bought something else. Probably a Camry.

Now, all that said, if the car is worth $15,000 to him, and he wouldn't sell it for less, then that's what it's worth to him. Maybe there's a buyer out there who is looking for a one-owner Focus Titanium with low mileage, in pristine no-accident condition and really likes those wheels. Stranger things have happened. Hell, in the Supra group, I regularly see cars in stock condition selling for 75-80% of their original retail value from 25 years ago.
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This is a 9k car? Haha! Nope. Try 14k. It looks just like an ST, yet I have all the options of the ST3. 9k is an insult really. MSRP is 27k.



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Good luck. My 2014 5 speed has only 45k, sport pkg, XM and back up sensors. New I only paid 14.5k otd. And you think a used Titanium with a bad transmission is worth what I paid new? If you find someone to pay it you better sell asap.
Guarantee I can get a much larger % of what I paid new with a 5 speed than you’ll ever see.
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Absolutely. Those are desired cars and it probably gets harder each year to find mostly original ones in good condition.
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