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Old 02-28-2019, 08:55 AM   #1
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Oil coming out of top of valve cover

Okay so the title makes this sound terrible. So I sold my 2014 Focus SE (71,xxx miles) to a guy...he texts me about 3-4 hours after we finish all the paperwork and says the car is spitting oil out of the top...I'm like WTF?! Turns out, he did an oil change and after, was running the car with the oil fill cap and dipstick removed. Now, I am not the sharpest tool in the shed but having a overhead cam engine and all the other moving parts directly under that cap, it makes sense to me that oil would indeed come spitting out with the cap removed and engine running. This guys family member now has him to believe that there is something wrong with the engine and is asking for his money back! I have never heard of ANYONE running the engine with the cap and dipstick removed.
Also, I told him to take it to the Ford dealer and show it to the service guy...he says he did and he claims they said "that's odd, but we need to hook it up to the computer to check it all out" and charge $170 to do it so he won't have it checked by a qualified mechanic. I have not had a single issue with this car and wouldn't have sold it with issues...not in my good conscience.
Am I wrong in my thinking about the oil?


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Old 02-28-2019, 12:24 PM   #2
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Ha. Exactly why was he running the car with the cap removed? No, you aren't wrong, and no, don't give him his money back.
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You are not wrong. Almost all cars will do this, even when brand new. Volvos used to have a little metal shield under the fill cap that would prevent this, but you still got blowby coming out with a fine mist of oil.

Either the buyer (and his family member) are ignorant and truly worried that this is abnormal... or he has buyers remorse and is using it as an excuse to get you to take the car back.

I would agree to meet him, with the car, at a mechanic or the dealership. A very quick convo with anyone there should clear this up pretty quickly.
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Old 02-28-2019, 05:05 PM   #4
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Thanks for the replies. So today I told this guy to take the car to a shop that I have trust in. After he went he calls me and says that the car is still messed up...I asked to speak to the tech that looked at the car and right in front of this tool, the tech tells me there is nothing wrong with the car. He states that he as never experienced this before...like someone coming in with the oil cap off. This guy takes it that they don't have the experience in dealing with this situation. The guy is from Sweden so obviously a language barrier thing happening. Even though the tech told me on the phone, with the guy standing right there, that nothing was wrong with the car he wanted to argue about it...I told him we were done....Thanks again for you replies.
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The buyer is a ****ing isiot. ALL of these cars WILL make a vast mess by driving them around with cap removed, it is directly over cam lobes and they are lubricated by SPLASH. In fact, NOT making a mess would be indicative of damage to the head oiling system, the heads flood with oil at higher rpm and NORMAL. Not doing so and engine damage in minutes.

The guy did not have webbed fingers did he?
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I had the guy go to a shop which I have used only once myself but trust them and they have good reviews, etc. He calls me after and says that the car is messed up...I asked to speak with the service tech that looked at the car. Using the guys phone with him standing right there, the tech tells me there is nothing wrong with the car and everything is mechanical fine, no weird sounds, etc. he states he's never experienced anything (anyone) like this before. The guy, even after hearing that nothing is wrong with the car, still wants to argue with me that something is wrong...I told him we were done...conversation over. You can't make this shit up! I already miss my Focus and will probably get another at some point. I only sold it because it was manual trans and my daughter needed a car for college she didn't feel comfortable driving it in our shitty city traffic. Tell ya what though...the kid is quickly learning my manual trans Jeep driving in the rocks! LOL.
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