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Old 02-14-2019, 11:56 PM   #1
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5 speed manual vibrates at idle

Hi. I just purchased a 2012 5 speed SE. The car checked out well but there seems to be a minor issue to ME. The interior rattles badly (door panels, steering wheel etc) in cold starts. Then, rattles fade away as the engine warms up, but it is still there.

Also, when the car is in neutral, I give it gas (as RPM goes up) and vibration smooths out. However, as soon i take my foot off the gas pedal (as the rpm decreases), a mild-medium vibration comes back between 1.0 - 1.3 RPm then things settle down at lower RPM. Is that normal for the 5 speed? Possible motor mount?

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You're not alone, I just got a 2012 SEL 'auto' that has a rattle/buzz in the dash when cold and goes away when the interior warms up. Maybe they were just used to much when they were new...
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Hi. I just purchased a 2012 5 speed SE. The car checked out well but there seems to be a minor issue to ME. The interior rattles badly (door panels, steering wheel etc) in cold starts. Then, rattles fade away as the engine warms up, but it is still there.

Also, when the car is in neutral, I give it gas (as RPM goes up) and vibration smooths out. However, as soon i take my foot off the gas pedal (as the rpm decreases), a mild-medium vibration comes back between 1.0 - 1.3 RPm then things settle down at lower RPM. Is that normal for the 5 speed? Possible motor mount?

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Correct, swap out the psm w/ a Ford oem one vs the cheap aftermarket ones.
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I had the same problem, planning on doing PSM as the weather gets warmer
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Had the same issue, swapped PSM like Felix said and most of my rattles went away.
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I did mine a couple of weeks ago. The rubber cracked and was leaking fluid but I had no vibrations. I have the eFocus lower mount though too.
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Is that true that manual and auto dont use the same mount (passenger side mount). I was told parts number are different
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Is that true that manual and auto dont use the same mount (passenger side mount). I was told parts number are different
I thought they were the same, but I could be wrong. This was what I bought (though it was from a local dealer's parts department): https://parts.ford.com/shop/en/us/br...port-6399935-1

If you search Ford's site, you'll see a few listings: https://parts.ford.com/shop/SearchDi...hTermPrepared=

If you read the descriptions, it looks like one is for the Focus Electric, one is for the ST, one is for the automatic without the fuel economy pack, and the last is for everything else:
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Old 02-19-2019, 05:45 PM   #9
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Thanks for the responses. AC lines seem to be on top of the engine mount. I found the instructions for 13-16 but could not find the one for 2012. How did you handle when you guys changed it
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Hi. I just purchased a 2012 5 speed SE. The car checked out well but there seems to be a minor issue to ME. The interior rattles badly (door panels, steering wheel etc) in cold starts. Then, rattles fade away as the engine warms up, but it is still there.

Also, when the car is in neutral, I give it gas (as RPM goes up) and vibration smooths out. However, as soon i take my foot off the gas pedal (as the rpm decreases), a mild-medium vibration comes back between 1.0 - 1.3 RPm then things settle down at lower RPM. Is that normal for the 5 speed? Possible motor mount?

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Replace the passenger side motor mount, recommend the drivers side while you are at it. I did this last week on my 2010 2.0 w/ manual transmission, had 120k miles in stock mounts. Drivers side alone made no difference, replacing the PS took the vibration away completely. It looked fine and did not appear to be leaking. But it was compressed when compared to the new one when not under pressure. Essentially just worn out.
I went with the mounts from PepBoys and they worked fine. Much cheaper than OEM, reviews from some say they don’t last as long, but time will tell. For the PSM I had to use the old bracket. Required about 20 minutes of bending, prying, and such with a vice, bar, and sand filled hammer to get old off and new on the bracket. Overall time to replace both was about an hour and a half total.

Also forgot to mention the PSM was just a hair too wide on the motor side, it was pushing against the head and would not line up the bolt holes exactly where they needed to be. I put it in a vice and took off 1/8 inch of material with a file (see pics), and it fit great.
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