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View Poll Results: Factory Lugs suck or is it just me?
Suck 36 72.00%
You're nuts, they're just fine. (or is it just YOUR nuts?) 14 28.00%
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Old 02-13-2017, 07:55 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Ohsix View Post
Don't use a impact wrench
Use a Breaker-bar with a well fitting socket
Use a torque wrench to tighten .
I think the hammer effect of a Impact wrench
Causes the Soft outer shell of the Wheel nut to expand.
I just replace 5 nuts on my Focus
Correct!

The lug nuts have a cosmetic layer (I think stainless steel or aluminum) around a more durable core (steel).

The cosmetic layer is bonded and then wrapped around the core. If you over toque the nuts, especially if you use a 12 point to install and remove them, you will cause the cosmetic layer to separate from the core. Once this happens moisture get in and causes the cosmetic layer to "expand." If you then try to use a 12 point you basically can "deform" the cosmetic layer making it harder to remove the lug nut. This can be exacerbated if the lug nut is over torqued.

Honestly, if you don't care, you can still use the lug nuts after the cosmetic layers are toast. You'd need an 18 mm top install and remove them though.

A further note, most tire shops not only use an impact gun, but they use a 3/4 bit (not a 19 mm). The nut is actually a 19 mm and while for an intensive purposes a 19 mm and 3/4 are the same, when you over torque them the 3/4 has enough of a tolerance versus the 19 mm to cause extra damage.

I have a 1/2 drive 16" long ratchet (https://www.craftsman.com/products/c...?taxon_id=1845) and I use it to take off the lug nuts with my 6-point 19mm Deep Socket (also 1/2 inch so no adapters needed https://www.craftsman.com/products/c...?taxon_id=1847). Once hand snug I use my Torque wrench with that Deep Socket to do the final tightening.

If you always do your lugs by hand, you can get away with the 12-point Deep Socket, or using an extension or adapter. But once they get over torqued, separated, and basically stuck. The above wrench with a 6 point is basically your only friend.
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Old 02-13-2017, 08:14 PM   #12
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^^^^works well.

I've got my own lazy habits, reinforced by tools on hand.

Breaker bar to loosen before jacking, then choice of ratchet/air wrench to run them off/on to snug, lower to ground & torque wrench to finish.
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Old 02-13-2017, 08:21 PM   #13
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I honestly use the stock lug wrench remover in the trunk. The one for my ST is really nice. It's just a deep well 19 mm socket that flexes on a long handle. I use to use an 18 inch breaker bar and a 19 socket, but the one that comes with the car is great now.
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Old 02-13-2017, 08:25 PM   #14
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that is why i buy ONLY the one piece acorn lug nuts. ev ery tire place i know down here has issues with them damn stainless BS things.
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Old 02-13-2017, 09:33 PM   #15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ohsix View Post
Don't use a impact wrench
Use a Breaker-bar with a well fitting socket
Use a torque wrench to tighten .
I think the hammer effect of a Impact wrench
Causes the Soft outer shell of the Wheel nut to expand.
I just replace 5 nuts on my Focus
Absolutely agree with this right here.
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Old 02-13-2017, 10:07 PM   #16
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im replacing all of mine with the single piece ones but the layout of the jag nuts.
i know my jag nuts fit the focus studs so im going to locate a dealer who will give me a batch deal on say 60 of them for all my cars.
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I replaced mine with Mcgard nuts. Stockers suck after someone beats them up.
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Just a warning to anyone interested, if you take your car to walmart for tires, flats or rotation. Make sure to mention you want them to finger tighten the lugs first. They will just impact them lugs on the car and cross thread them bad boys all the way. They did it to my wife's neon. And that goes for any tire place really.
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suck.

this should be a poll.
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