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Old 08-16-2015, 09:03 PM   #1
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Please help.... Code P0805, P2872

2013 Ford focus automatic with 116,000 miles.

Wife drove the car home last night from work and she noticed that it seemed a little hesitant coming out of first. I gave her a good washing today and when I got in the car and turned the key the car wouldn't start as usual. Its was like the starter didn't want to engage, all I got was a clicking/grinding sound under the hood. after a couple attempts it started up but the CEL was on.

So I begun to pull out of the driveway to go to the nearest Auto parts store to get a Diagnostic check and first gear was sluggish, once the RPMs got up it immediately jumped from 1st to 3rd gear and If I try to accelerate the transmission would Disengage itself. I would almost come to a complete stop before it would engage 1st gear but again if I try to accelerate like normal it would just jump out of gear. Never had any problem out than the normal issue people have been having with these transmissions ie... Sputtering, rattling and so on. I got about a 1/2 mile for the Parts store and got a signal in the little console saying that the transmission was overheating and give it 8 sec to cool down....

Is this something that is a recall on these cars or have others had that problem.

P0805 - Clutch Position Sensor "A" Curcuit... No reported fixes available.
P2872 - Clutch "A" stuck engaged. (Reported Fixes... Replace Automatic Transmission w P07A3, P2787)

I haven't found anything on these. I don't want to drive the car to the dealership if its gonna damage anything in the process and I definitely cant afford another transmission.

Can someone give me some help here. How do you check the Automatic transmission fluid in these cars and yes I do have that small leak between the engine and tranny that people have been talking about. When I changed the oil and had to pull the cover off the bottom I seen where it was leaking.

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Can't check ATF level since it doesn't have any, does have special gear oil like the manual transmissions and you're due for a change.

Current issue could be a clutch actuator, motor/sensor that does the clutch engagement (two of them, one for each clutch).

Controller for those (TCM) is a possibility, and that's got extended coverage for warranty if involved.

Can't say about clutches/seals, working fine until now means those could be OK. Oil drip can be engine OR trans., with clutches working good to date it might be the engine and not critical.

Doesn't sound like it's working well enough to limp it in, unless the Dealer is as close as the parts store.
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Old 08-16-2015, 10:23 PM   #3
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Funny thing is this is.like an instant thing. Get a CEL and everything starts happening. At no time prior to last night did we have an issue and car would drive just fine. I figured we would see or feel some type advance warning if those things were going bad. Dealership is about 10 miles away. Parts store is about the same distance.
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That's why my guess was the actuator, it's what moves the clutch & senses position.

Symptoms by themselves might be the TCM, as that's what controls the actuators as well as shifting the transmission.

When it can't shift properly it won't start, the reason that's related.

BTW - 1,3,5 are on one clutch and 2,4,6 on the other to explain the 1-3 shift.

Actuator/TCM are external parts, connecting to the inside, so it might be able to be fixed without pulling the trans/doing the clutches. If an actuator linkage or a clutch is involved the trans has to come out for access.
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The TCM has a 150.000 mile warranty. I'm guessing that's the problem. The TCM can fail about 50 different ways and throw an equal amount of different codes.
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Where are those actuators located, I want to learn as I'm going and it's always a good thing to know where things are.
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They'd be found on the bellhousing portion of the trans., with the TCM on the gearbox section.

Makuloco youtube video links aren't working now, we had one here in General Tech Chat that showed the clutch replacement procedure & you could see where they were in that.
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So Im assuming it finally failed. I haven't driven it since the other day and today I decided to take it to the dealership and see what they can do... So I tried to start it up and ofcourse all you hear is a grinding sound under the hood but no start when you turn the key. Grinding sound last for about 5 or 6 sec and once it stops you turn the key and it starts right up. I get one the road, 1st, 3rd and then all of a sudden I get a Flash on the little screen that says transmission service now and the car just rolls to a stop. I put it in park, Put it back in drive and Give it gas and regardless of how hard I press the Petal it revs up to 1500 rpms and just sits there. I put it in reverse and the same thing. Basically its like Its in Limp mode or something. I ended up getting it towed back home. Call the dealership and they said it sounds like something electrical with the codes but they wont be able to look at it for 2 1/2 weeks.

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Symptoms by themselves might be the TCM, as that's what controls the actuators as well as shifting the transmission.
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Old 08-21-2015, 04:29 PM   #10
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Can so.eone.please.tell me or direct me to the location of the TCM. I have access to the same year name and model car and I can pull it off and see if that fixes the problem.
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