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Old 11-06-2018, 08:51 AM   #781
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In your opinion, do you think my car will have further transmission issues down the line? It’s constantly shuddering & sputtering around + the grinding noise comes & goes.
If my car is representative of the MK3 Focus population, I don't think it'll leave you stranded (now that your TCM has been replaced) but it seems like it'll probably shudder and grind forever.

Agreed - resale value is horrible.

What revision clutch do you have / when did you get it replaced? Feel free to DM me.
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Old 11-06-2018, 11:46 AM   #782
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I'm a little over 140,000 on my 2012 manual. Original clutch. And they have not been easy miles.
That's friggin awesome. I'm at 100K+ and wondering how long the clutch will last.
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Old 11-06-2018, 04:16 PM   #783
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I have no doubt the clutch in mine will go the distance...easy on it over the last 100K...mostly highway cruising.
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Old 11-06-2018, 04:57 PM   #784
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And here I am wondering about the clutch longevity in my 5 speed.. already at an astounding 12,600 miles in 3 years.
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Old 11-07-2018, 07:32 AM   #785
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I'm a little over 140,000 on my 2012 manual. Original clutch.
That's not unexpected. Life on any well-maintained transmission - hydraulic auto or manual - is 150k or so. This POS DCT is my first "auto"; every car I had before was a manual and were just shy of 200k when I sold them. Never once replaced a clutch, though one certainly had a bit of slippage.

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In your opinion, do you think my car will have further transmission issues down the line?
Absolutely. This isn't even a question. I'd love to find someone - anyone - who's got more than 25-30k miles (honestly, 50k would speak more to longevity) on a replacement clutch pack without any issues whatsoever. And then I want them to tell me what voodoo black magic they used to make it happen

The fact of the matter is that a problematic DPS6 will always be a problematic DPS6. There is no fix. If you make it to 50k+ on your DCT without any issues, you're probably fine. Once the shudder starts, though, there is nothing but shop visits in your future. If anyone tells you otherwise, they're blowing smoke up your bum.

That said, some folks have had good luck with Tom's tune, but I'm not aware of anyone who has had it long enough to truly consider it a fix. I will almost certainly try it after my warranty is up, but with a healthy amount of skepticism and firm belief that it will only improve performance but not provide a long-term fix to an inherently flawed transmission.
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Old 11-07-2018, 08:07 AM   #786
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What about a 2018 DCT Focus? Do they drive without shudder & sputter on acceleration? The prices are very reasonable if they drive better vs. the 2012-2016 models? I really just prefer not to daily drive a manual in city traffic, so the ST is out.



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Old 11-07-2018, 10:41 AM   #787
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What about a 2018 DCT Focus? Do they drive without shudder & sputter on acceleration? The prices are very reasonable if they drive better vs. the 2012-2016 models?
It's impossible to say. Even the MK3s that ended up with persistent issues started out just fine. It takes a (comparatively) long time for issues like this to pop up and enough reports to determine whether it's a widespread issue or just a couple of incidents. IIRC, most problematic MK3s were just fine for the first year and/or 15k miles or so. If someone has a 2018, it's likely only just now hitting that point.

A reddit user posted in the Focus sub that his 2018 SEL is going in for it's first clutch pack replacement and he has 20k miles on it: https://old.reddit.com/r/FordFocus/c...h_replacement/

I keep saying it: the DPS6 is flawed. No amount of clutch pack revisions are going to fix something that has been poorly designed. The sheer number of complaints and fact that folks (myself included) have had multiple clutch packs (both of mine have been the latest revision, too) just proves the point.

I will admit, it's easy to think a MK3.5 might be worth the gamble, since the majority of Fiestas and Focuses with the DCT do not seem to experience shudder. But if you're unlucky, you will get stuck with a car that has awful resale value and is guaranteed to never be fixed. Personally, there are too many options out there to take that gamble.

The folks who got screwed the most out of this are the folks who weren't aware that the DCT is a dumpster fire. If someone sees all of these threads and buys one anyway and they get a crap transmission...well, can't say they weren't warned. Buying a Ford car with the DCT is a poor life choice, IMO. Today me wishes he could go back to 2014 me and scream at him to keep his Mazda3 hatch and give the Focus a wide berth.
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Old 11-07-2018, 11:28 AM   #788
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Absolutely. This isn't even a question. I'd love to find someone - anyone - who's got more than 25-30k miles (honestly, 50k would speak more to longevity) on a replacement clutch pack without any issues whatsoever. And then I want them to tell me what voodoo black magic they used to make it happen
I am currently at 126 500 KM. Clutches got replaced at 80 000 KM two years ago. So this mean about 29 000 miles... still running like brand new :)

The original clutches were good but my 5 years warranty was almost up so I had the dealer replace them anyway.
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I am currently at 126 500 KM. Clutches got replaced at 80 000 KM two years ago. So this mean about 29 000 miles... still running like brand new :)

The original clutches were good but my 5 years warranty was almost up so I had the dealer replace them anyway.
I may be reading this wrong, but are you saying that you weren't having trouble, had them replace the clutch pack, and you're still not having trouble?

If that's the case, then that's what I would expect: DCTs without trouble early on (15-25k miles) tend to remain trouble-free past usual wear-and-tear. DCTs that develop a shudder early on tend to develop the shudder again even with replacement parts. Essentially, a defective DPS6 transmission continues to remain defective no matter what "fix" Ford applies to it. Functional transmissions remain functional.
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I may be reading this wrong, but are you saying that you weren't having trouble, had them replace the clutch pack, and you're still not having trouble?

If that's the case, then that's what I would expect: DCTs without trouble early on (15-25k miles) tend to remain trouble-free past usual wear-and-tear. DCTs that develop a shudder early on tend to develop the shudder again even with replacement parts. Essentially, a defective DPS6 transmission continues to remain defective no matter what "fix" Ford applies to it. Functional transmissions remain functional.
You are reading correct sir. I had very very little shuddering but maybe once a week once only and was very very little. I drive about ~400 miles each week to give you an idea and I do 80HWY/20CITY.

I made them change the clutches because I had the old seals and was afraid they leak outside the 5 years (or 7 years) warranty.
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