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View Poll Results: Which transmission is best in the long run, up to 100K miles.
Automatic transmissions in general. 45 38.46%
Manual transmissions in general. 72 61.54%
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Old 07-30-2011, 09:03 PM   #31
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I think that part of the question cannot be answered because really it depends on how you drive your car. You could have a manual and beat the crap out of it and it might die at around 100k, or you could have an auto and have it last 150k+ if you're reasonably nice to it (as in, no racing or "jump starts" or "panic stops".

Now, to answer your question, my 2008 Focus had an automatic, and it went until 90k (then it got traded), but i never had to do anything to it. I did do a fluid change at 60k for preventative maintenance, which wasn't really required by Ford, but I did it anyway (but the car got traded before it hit 100k.... but I can tell you this: it is still being driven, because I see it in tow quite frequently--traded it at the local dealer for the 2010 Focus).

In my opinion, I think the autos tend to last longer, just simply because everything is automatic and you don't have to really worry about wearing out clutches or stuff like that. I always have had automatics in my car, just because the extra 2-3 MPG boost that I manual would give wasn't enough to make me change my mind. Over a car's lifetime, maybe it would come to some decent amount of money saved, but since have usually kept my cars until 100k or so and then get new ones, it really didn't make sense for me. Although, I guess manuals are cheaper to get, but I feel that in the end, it all works out about the same, when you consider replacing clutches, etc.

Let me put it this way, one of my first cars was a 1995 Ford Taurus. It had an automatic, and it ran until 190k (bought it with 90k on it--this was my "high school/college" car) until one of the trans mounts broke. But 190k is a fair amount of miles (at least, in the day). Nowadays, 190k is in some instances, normal for many cars made in the last 5 years or so). Point being, it partially depends on how you treat your transmission. You can kill them before they hit 100k if you're not careful, and yet many of them can run to well over 200-250k without problems-- my friend's 2001 Ranger has almost 170k on it and his trans (an automatic) still runs very well--all original parts.
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Old 07-30-2011, 09:34 PM   #32
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in my personal opion manual is the way to go. ive owned 7 automatic vehicles and had 2 transmissions completly fail and have 1 one its way out. one was a dodge ram at somewhere around 200k and the other was my 96 tbird at around 155k and my focus is slipping and making some nasty noises at around 92k but i do have a tit bit of a lead foot. ive owned 3 manuals 42 ford 00 sportage and 87 toyota. never had any problems with the manual transmissions except a little clutch chatter with the 42, but what do you expect from a 69 year old car. will be swapping my focus over to manual as soon as i start driving my 96 contour i just got thats also manual. i like driving the car not having the car drive me.
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Old 07-30-2011, 11:15 PM   #33
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One trans that I've experienced going bad was in a company truck we had that was a 93 F350. Had the diesel engine (I think it was a 7.3L or an 8L) but it had the automatic trans. We went through about 4 transmissions in about 5 years (luckily they were all covered under warranty--and the reason was because it couldn't take the torque). Finally, the 5th transmission worked--and it worked until the truck was sold, with about 250k on it).

Other than that (and my 2012 Focus) I haven't had any other problems with transmissions. And the only reason the trans was going in my Taurus was because it had almost 200k on it and the trans mounts were cracked so it would shake the entire car (which I guess isn't a good thing for a car/engine/transmission).
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In general, manual.

On this car...can't say for sure.

I've driven manual cars my entire life and usually it's much better because you get better gas mileage, more control, makes you feel like the car is better than it is (although some of mine were American muscle...so they're meant to feel like that lol), and lowers the cost of repairs/maintenance if you know how to drive correctly.

I've had cars for 8 years (still have one, 2003 Mustang GT 4.6L V8 SC) that have never needed a clutch replacement...and yet there are people that claim they know how to drive stick that have to replace their clutch every 2 years.

On the other hand, I bought an automatic Focus. Why? Better gas mileage and the double-clutch system. I've driven cars with a double-clutch system in the past and I love the driving experience. And now that I'm getting a bit more age around my eyes I've realized I'm lazy and would rather be able to drive and have a drink (pepsi) than have to always think about shifting while I'm thirsty.
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Old 12-25-2011, 09:31 AM   #35
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I voted manual although I currently drive an automatic. Simpler has got to be more reliable. If you know how to drive, wear and tear on the clutch should be manageable.
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Old 12-25-2011, 04:13 PM   #36
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in my experience manuals are far better and more trust worthy and take more of a beating. ive had 4 automatic transmissions and all of them have failed and all of them have been ford. overall conclusion if u dont drive a certain way they fail
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Old 12-25-2011, 04:38 PM   #37
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I went 227,000 miles on my Mazda Tribute 5 speed with no transmission, clutch issues. Car was totaled in an accident.
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Old 12-26-2011, 08:15 PM   #38
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My previous car ('05 Toyota Corolla) had an automatic transmission failure at 60k miles. It cost nearly $5k to fix it, hence the '12 Focus. I'm confident that the manual trans in my Focus will last longer than 60k.
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Old 12-27-2011, 09:46 AM   #39
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I like manuals, just can't drive them anymore, so I'm glad there are other options so I can still drive a car! Manuals are fun to drive, but most cars at the drag strip are automatics now, as they produce much more consistent times. And FTR, power shifting a manual is not abuse, it's just limiting clutch slippage!
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manuals of course.. Almost all cars in Europe are standards, with Autos being a rare option. only place to have mostly Autos with some cars not even optioned in the stick the the US.. with the Wussimatics, or Lazymatics.... to me with the exception of people needing it due to medical or other issues, all cars should be a STICK
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