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Old 09-20-2019, 03:32 PM   #1
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Wacky wipers

2005 focus zx4, the wiper stick doesn't work either like it should or like I think it should. Pressing downward on the stalk should cause a single wipe right? For some reason, mine only moves the wipers if I hold the stalk down. If I let go at any time, the wipers stop where they are on the windshield instead of continuing back to the park position. Normal, or do I need to pull a replacement unit from the scrap yard? I've had lots of cars over the years and never experienced this odd behavior.


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Old 09-21-2019, 03:09 PM   #2
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2005 focus zx4, the wiper stick doesn't work either like it should or like I think it should. Pressing downward on the stalk should cause a single wipe right? For some reason, mine only moves the wipers if I hold the stalk down. If I let go at any time, the wipers stop where they are on the windshield instead of continuing back to the park position. Normal, or do I need to pull a replacement unit from the scrap yard? I've had lots of cars over the years and never experienced this odd behavior.
Problem can be in the switch, the motor, or GEM. Does the intermittent wiper function work?

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Old 09-22-2019, 12:21 AM   #3
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Intermittent works as does the spray button that makes it wipe a few times and returns to the park location. Going to the junkyard tomorrow, is it difficult to remove, does steering wheel have to come out?
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Intermittent works as does the spray button that makes it wipe a few times and returns to the park location. Going to the junkyard tomorrow, is it difficult to remove, does steering wheel have to come out?
If intermittents work then problem is most likely the switch.

Steering column does not neet to come out - just remove upper column cover and press release button on switch and it will slide out of its retainer and then you can disconnect the harness connector:


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Old 09-22-2019, 07:20 PM   #5
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I replaced switch today with one from an 07, same behavior. I verified all other wiper functions work including intermittent and spray modes. All return to park location. Think the GEM module is messed up or maybe replacement switch is also faulty? Or is this just normal behavior for a gen1 focus?
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I replaced switch today with one from an 07, same behavior. I verified all other wiper functions work including intermittent and spray modes. All return to park location. Think the GEM module is messed up or maybe replacement switch is also faulty? Or is this just normal behavior for a gen1 focus?
Not normal - wipers should park when moved to any 'on' position (int, normal (low), fast, single) and then back to off. GEM is only used in intermittent. The 'off' position contacts in the wiper switch are what completes the park circuit thru the wiper relay in the CJB and the park switch inside the motor. The same park circuit is used anytime the switch is in the off position. If there was a problem with either the wiper relay or motor park switch the system would never park. So its odd to me that your system parks normally from the other setting but not from the single wipe.

Do you have a DVOM or continuity meter?

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Old 10-13-2019, 12:59 AM   #7
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I replaced the switch again by borrowing one that works. Definitely not the switch since it's still doing it. I'm thinking of swapping the relay next or maybe the entire motor. Just soo odd that it works fine in all other modes and parks when turned off.
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I replaced the switch again by borrowing one that works. Definitely not the switch since it's still doing it. I'm thinking of swapping the relay next or maybe the entire motor. Just soo odd that it works fine in all other modes and parks when turned off.
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1. Press down on the switch for the wiper to leave the park position then release. With the wipers stopped in a non-park position move the wiper switch up to the ON (low) position and then quickly to OFF - do the wipers park?

2. Press down on the switch for the wiper to leave the park position then quickly release to get the wipers to stop in a non-parkk position. Repeat the 'quick ON then release' to 'increment' the wipers across a full wipe. At any point does the cycle complete to park when the switch is released?

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Option 2,no, it never parks. I can hop the wipers across, stopping them in any position by tapping down on the switch. It's hard to get them back parked correctly because you have to time it just right when to let go. I'll try that other experiment though, good idea. It has to be the motor or a relay somewhere. The car is in excellent shape mechanically and has tons of service history so this one is very odd. I replaced the cheap after market stereo with a factory 6 disc changer yesterday and was hoping maybe there was a hack job of wires behind the stereo. But it was all professionally done with a quick disconnect adapter and crimps. It reverted to the factory stereo by just moving 2 plugs.
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The circuit uses the same PARK circuit when the switch is moved to the OFF position whether from the single wipe (momentary) position, LO/HI positions, or intermittent. If you wipers park from any switch position then the PARK switch in the motor must be good and the NC (normally closed) contacts in the wiper relay must be good as well.

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