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Old 10-11-2018, 09:52 PM   #11
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“....So when you add a new screw/bolt are you going to have the head of the new screw/bolt visible on the oustide of the mirror 'sail'?

BTW your 2005 may be totally or partially wired from the factory for heated mirrors. ...”

Yes, because I was *that* steamed at losing another passenger mirror 😉. Later, I thought a large, plastic, “Christmas tree” push fastener would be more cosmetic, plus provide continued impact mitigation. I’m not so much worried about actually heating the mirror, as not wanting to lose the remote adjustment. (I’m a wimp about returns, lol.). What I *really* like is the idea of that folding joint preventing this whole nut roll in the future! But that’s almost $60, so I’ll try the Cheapo Protocol first.
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Good luck with your fix.

Since I have done a lot of research on heated mirror wiring on the 00-07 Id be curious if you could tell me if your 05 door harnesses are prewired for the heating element. All you need to do is look at the door harness half of the mirror connector and see if it has 5 wires/contacts or only 3 wires/contacts.

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Old 10-12-2018, 05:22 PM   #12
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I *think* it had 5 wires, but my memory has already been established as spotty! I’ll update with results after tomorrow. And here is what I called a a Christmas tree push fastener:Side Mirror Repair w/o Replace-2046381c-8414-4cc7-9637-9c8006a23c77_1539379332304.jpg
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Im not sure that fastener will be strong enough for your application. Let me know about the wires.

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Paul,
The mirror only had 3 wires, but the harness has 5. So I feel much better about springing for the folding, heated replacement version. 🙂
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The upper attachment prongs turned out not to be the single point of failure due to hitting something. There is a well-reinforced plastic plate flush against the door, with the outer mirror and “shark fin” / sail making up another plate. Now imagine that Ford glued a series of perpendicular toilet paper tubes between these, and that’s your basic breakaway support system. Not all of these connectors remain perpendicular. You can see some in their holes, but the higher up the back of the sail you go, the more you see empty holes. Until I realigned the plates, the sail was bowed 1/2” out from the door. The hole next to the inspection sticker was the site of the late lamented prongs.
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Finally, the end result—marginally better than letting it flop. It just has to last until the new mirror arrives.
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Finally, the end result—marginally better than letting it flop. It just has to last until the new mirror arrives.
The replacement being a '02-'04 svt/'05-'07 st folding mirror?
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It’s the 05-07 ST mirror according to 1AAuto: Ford Focus Mirror - 1AMRE03221

I’m going to check that the fuse for the defrost circuit can handle the (slightly) higher load. The wiring harness is probably common to a couple of trim lines to save on fabrication costs, but they could’ve THEN saved money on lower capacity fuse.

FWIW, the 1AAuto videos helped me change it the first time, too, so that’s another plus for this part. (1/4” socket worked for me on the door pull when 7mm wouldn’t— YMMV.)
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I'd also get the drivers side mirror also.
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It’s the 05-07 ST mirror according to 1AAuto: Ford Focus Mirror - 1AMRE03221

I’m going to check that the fuse for the defrost circuit can handle the (slightly) higher load. The wiring harness is probably common to a couple of trim lines to save on fabrication costs, but they could’ve THEN saved money on lower capacity fuse.



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The fuse for the side mirror heating elements is a separate fuse (F50,7.5A) from the one for the rear defroster grid (F49, 25A). Both fuses are powered thru the rear window defrost relay (R25).

The fact that the mirror connector has all 5 contacts/wires proves that your door harnesses are wired for the mirror heating elements. However the wiring from the CJB to the heating elements goes thru 3 harnesses: power harness, body harness, and front door harnesses. On my 2005 ZX4 - which did not come from the factory with heated mirrors - the car was wired from the factory for the door and body harnesses but not in the power harness (from the CJB to the LH A-pillar connector C210) so I needed to add that one wire. You may/may not find the same situation. The simplest test is to put one side of a 12V test light or DVOM on the power feed wire at the door harness mirror connector (LH: GRN/BLK, RH: GRN/ORG - as shown in your pic) and the other to the black ground wire in that connector and push the defrost switch in and see if it lights or have battery voltage. If not you will have some missing wires in one or more of the other harnesses (very common). Let me know and I can walk you thru finding what wires are needed.

BTW my car had F50 installed even though it did not come with heated mirrors and had the missing wire.

BTW2 my 2005 ZX4 is the same color as yours too.
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