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Old 02-21-2019, 10:49 PM   #11
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After 150k miles, I had planned to replace the shoes-and I had the parts-but decided I should find better shoes. For context, I had never worked on a brake drum until I got this car, so I was wondering
1) whether brake shoes 2/3 worn down are still okay for several K miles (after all, it took 150k to get to this point) or should they be replaced asap? I still plan to replace the shoes but don't know how critical here. And
2) Are brake shoes one of those parts I should stick with OEM or are there better aftermarkets? The only aftermarket shoes I found locally, looked junk.

Braking seems okay except I have dealt with warped front rotors- I changed 3 sets of rotors in the past 6-7 years (don't know if this is related or just hard braking)...

thanks, if you have insights
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Old 02-22-2019, 03:36 AM   #12
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You have the same warped rotor issue everybody else has, meaning there ain't one. The problem is much more likely to be pad and shoe material getting swedged into the rotor surface to be that instead. The difference in hardness produces the 'warped ' effect. Recutting them removes that not any warp there.

I proved that out over and over back when I used to cut rotors and drums. To begin with, there is NO WAY you can cut the parts back to 'not warped' as every machine commonly used to do that work in parts stores has a flaw to it that produces parts that seem to be warped. I used to show it to people all the time.

I use aftermarket non-Ford shoes and pads on everything I have and for 40 years, it is the competency of the person working on and driving the car that is the issue there.

150K is enough for rear shoes and when I commonly change them. They can go longer but ruining a drum over it is stupid unless you have money to throw away.
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That "warped" rotor effect you described makes total sense. Not a single professional mechanic has ever explained it to me that way before. Thanks.

On another note, I will go ahead and change my brake shoes next month.
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yea you are right, (and my problem may be completely unrelated to the chap with the original question) but that "squishy" sound may be more of what I felt - spongy brakes. There was still some initial hiss with the car off but the spongy brakes (and no visible leaks) made me think I had air in brake lines or bad master cylinder. After bleeding brakes I replaced the master cylinder and this helped a lot but the brake pedal still a little soft. Over time it got worse and after a year the spongy brakes became dangerous. Perhaps my new master cylinder was bad so I replaced it with another new MC (OEM but it had Bosch on it) and also purchased a reman brake booster from autozone (with the intent of returning it if I did not need it). Anyway I found the brake booster was leaking dirty brake fluid while the mastercylinder had pristine oil. So I replaced both the Mastercylinder and brake booster together and the brakes are good as new (literally, because I bought this focus new). Any idea what was going on with this issue? I thought a bad brake booster would make the pedal stiff (not spongy) and why was the brake oil so dirty at the booster while clean in the MC? I have an 07 Duratec 2.0.

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Your old master cylinder was leaking fluid into the brake booster. Brake boosters don't contain any brake fluid to leak unless the master cylinder was leaking into it from the back.

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