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Yes! Do it! Do it now! And get an HID conversion! 11 29.73%
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:06 PM   #11
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We recommend that you keep your stock headlight bulbs handy so you can reinstall them when you drive your car on public roads. USE OF AFTER-MARKET HID HEADLIGHTS ON PUBLIC ROADS IS ILLEGAL. OZNIUM LLC SELLS HID HEADLIGHTS STRICTLY FOR USE AT CAR SHOWS OR ON NON-PUBLIC ROADS.


See al the ghosting up top all that will be bliding the drivers around you.. I am surprised mods aren't here yet to tell you


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yea, that's just a demo shot or something, I've seen the conversion from the car in the pic... and it looks real stunning... I'm thinking they can be adjusted or aimed much lower...

But yea, the housing makes a huge huge difference, that's why expensive audi's and bmw's have that beautiful light diffusion...
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Old 12-15-2005, 04:19 PM   #12
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I am surprised mods aren't here yet to tell you
I'll chime in...
It's illegal to install HID's in a non HID designed housing.
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html
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In virtually every first-world country, HID "retrofits" into halogen headlamps are illegal.
They're illegal clear across Europe and in all of the many countries that use European ECE headlight regulations.
They're illegal in the US and Canada.

The only safe and legitimate HID retrofit is one that replaces the entire headlamp—
that is lens, reflector, bulb...the WHOLE shemozzle—with optics designed for HID usage.

But just putting an HID bulb where a halogen one belongs is bad news all around.
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Old 12-15-2005, 06:34 PM   #13
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^^I was waiting for you.. I keep forgetting the link... Igor
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Old 12-15-2005, 09:30 PM   #14
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Have you ever checked the buy/sell/trade section to see whats for sale?

(hint hint... wink wink)
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Yes i've seen more and more Mach HIDs in the B/S/T section. I would just save your money and get the HID's. If not get the ST170 and no HID conversion unless you want to be stupid and blind the other drivers. Be smart and try to not cause problems with on coming and traffic in front of you. I mean look at that pic from that one web site. There is so much light scattered all over, just isnt smart to do that.
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what about doing a hid bulb in a projector housing?
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Old 12-17-2005, 02:23 AM   #17
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They will just make the hot spots more noticeable. I mean the HID bulbs dont change the pattern they just change the intensity of the light. U will still get tons of hot spots and terrible optics.
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Isn't a ton of hotspot what we want? As far as I can tell it seems the biggest problem is jsut the direction of the light correct? I realize that they are illegal but what isn't illegal on our cars? Exhaust, tinit, modify intakes, modify suspension, all of that is illegal too. I think that the headlights have bigger implications jsut because it could affect oncoming drivers more so. But even when I am coming up to a BMW he still blinds me and his lights are 'factory' so what gives?
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^^^Exhaust will not kill people...
I know about all HID.. they do blind somewhat and it is annoying.. BUT they still have very clear and conrollable shine line... out lights cannot possibly direct th HID bean.. we just do not have the housing for that..

If you have projector lights, like Mach or Mazda3... then it would be probably possible to modify the beam.. but as It stands.. you will be dangerous TO OTHERS with those lights.. I will not budge on this position..

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Old 12-17-2005, 07:26 PM   #20
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No you don't want hot spots! You want an even throw of light so there are no spots of intense and/or dim light. Its should all be and all even throw of light...

And about the illegal thing...its not just bc they are illegal but they can cause problems for other drivers. They can blind on coming or traffic in front of you. Where tint, CAI, exhaust what ever else doesn't directly effect those in front or coming towards you unlike a HID conversion.
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