Totally fed up - Vibration/Pumping causes other than motor mounts ? - Page 2 - Ford Focus Forum, Ford Focus ST Forum, Ford Focus RS Forum
Ford Focus Forum
HomeContact UsAbout UsGalleryDiscussion ForumsMarketplace


Go Back   Ford Focus Forum, Ford Focus ST Forum, Ford Focus RS Forum > Ford Focus Tech Discussions > General Technical Chat

General Technical Chat This section is for technical discussions relating to general maintenance, electrical issues, engine trouble, and recalls.

Search This Forum | Image Search | Advanced Search    
FocusFest

Reply




 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-06-2019, 12:12 PM   #11
Focus Enthusiast
 
homey55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Fan#: 54911
Location: Brandon, MS
What I Drive: 2003, Silver, ZX3 2.3 5-speed

Posts: 444
Points 1,593, Level 22
Points: 1,593, Level: 22 Points: 1,593, Level: 22 Points: 1,593, Level: 22
Level Up 93% Completed
Level up: 93% Level up: 93% Level up: 93%
Forum Activity 29%
Activity: 29% Activity: 29% Activity: 29%
FF Reputation: 5 homey55 Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
There is wiggle room in the top trans mount. There's not much, but again, just a tiny bind will resonate through the chassis. When you loosen the mounts make sure you support the motor with a jack.
__________________
Autolite 103's, Cosworth CAI, FRPP Suspension, Strut Bars, DIY Short Shifter, SVT Air Dam, BSD, Poly Trans Mount, Borla 2.5", Roush Wheels, Tune...
homey55 is offline  
    Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 09-06-2019, 01:54 PM   #12
Focus Jr. Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Fan#: 334889
Location: New Castle, Israel
What I Drive: 2003 Silver Focus MK1

Posts: 37
Points 307, Level 6
Points: 307, Level: 6 Points: 307, Level: 6 Points: 307, Level: 6
Level Up 14% Completed
Level up: 14% Level up: 14% Level up: 14%
Forum Activity 26%
Activity: 26% Activity: 26% Activity: 26%
FF Reputation: 1 Silencer23 Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
Alright, tried it now with the simple Passenger mount, I let the running engine choose where it wants it and torqued it back up....
Didn't really do anything noticeable - I will check the tranny mount tomorrow although really I never had to mess with mount centering in any other car so even if it does work, I would hate that the engine is that sensitive hahah
Silencer23 is offline  
    Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-06-2019, 02:54 PM   #13
Focus Enthusiast
 
homey55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Fan#: 54911
Location: Brandon, MS
What I Drive: 2003, Silver, ZX3 2.3 5-speed

Posts: 444
Points 1,593, Level 22
Points: 1,593, Level: 22 Points: 1,593, Level: 22 Points: 1,593, Level: 22
Level Up 93% Completed
Level up: 93% Level up: 93% Level up: 93%
Forum Activity 29%
Activity: 29% Activity: 29% Activity: 29%
FF Reputation: 5 homey55 Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
You need to do all 3 at the same time, not one at a time. Also, starting the engine is not totally necessary (since the battery will be out of the car).
__________________
Autolite 103's, Cosworth CAI, FRPP Suspension, Strut Bars, DIY Short Shifter, SVT Air Dam, BSD, Poly Trans Mount, Borla 2.5", Roush Wheels, Tune...
homey55 is offline  
    Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 09-07-2019, 02:29 AM   #14
Focus Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Fan#: 96610
Location: Fort Worth, TX
What I Drive: 00 wagon, 02 sedan both zetec atx

Posts: 15,209
Points 9,388, Level 65
Points: 9,388, Level: 65 Points: 9,388, Level: 65 Points: 9,388, Level: 65
Level Up 13% Completed
Level up: 13% Level up: 13% Level up: 13%
Forum Activity 100%
Activity: 100% Activity: 100% Activity: 100%
FF Reputation: 62 amc49 Excellent Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
Making too much of nothing there, Focus mounts are engineered to work at almost every position they can be tightened up into. The rear trans mount actually performs better NOT aligning in any way, the tilt of the trans weight off of true vertical lines it up automatically. The pass side simply realigns to still be pretty much straight down loaded (it is omniversal in fit) as intended unless you have the bracket bolt holes off to one side a mile and the trans upper mount is easily viewed for fit as you tighten it up. Center any bracket holes with whatever you are bolting to and it should work, been there a hundred times.
__________________
Fix the driver first, then fixing the car becomes so much easier..........
amc49 is offline  
    Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-07-2019, 08:13 AM   #15
Focus Jr. Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Fan#: 334889
Location: New Castle, Israel
What I Drive: 2003 Silver Focus MK1

Posts: 37
Points 307, Level 6
Points: 307, Level: 6 Points: 307, Level: 6 Points: 307, Level: 6
Level Up 14% Completed
Level up: 14% Level up: 14% Level up: 14%
Forum Activity 26%
Activity: 26% Activity: 26% Activity: 26%
FF Reputation: 1 Silencer23 Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
Well it appears I can let it get worse so the problem reveals itself to me... Maybe it's one of the coil on plugs operating at 90% of its efficiency ? You can't test that though, or can you ?
Regardless, do you think small secondary vibrations are damaging to the engine and tramsmission or are they built to withstand long term minor harmonics ?
Silencer23 is offline  
    Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-07-2019, 08:26 AM   #16
Focus Addict
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Fan#: 91663
Location: Houston, TX
What I Drive: 2006 ZX3 SES

Posts: 657
Points 918, Level 16
Points: 918, Level: 16 Points: 918, Level: 16 Points: 918, Level: 16
Level Up 18% Completed
Level up: 18% Level up: 18% Level up: 18%
Forum Activity 99%
Activity: 99% Activity: 99% Activity: 99%
FF Reputation: 6 pbfoot Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Silencer23 View Post
Well it appears I can let it get worse so the problem reveals itself to me... Maybe it's one of the coil on plugs operating at 90% of its efficiency ? You can't test that though, or can you ?
Regardless, do you think small secondary vibrations are damaging to the engine and tramsmission or are they built to withstand long term minor harmonics ?
Only with an oscilloscope or buy 1 new coil and keep substituting the new coil for an old one until you have tested all 4 cylinders.
pbfoot is offline  
    Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-07-2019, 12:24 PM   #17
Focus Jr. Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Fan#: 334889
Location: New Castle, Israel
What I Drive: 2003 Silver Focus MK1

Posts: 37
Points 307, Level 6
Points: 307, Level: 6 Points: 307, Level: 6 Points: 307, Level: 6
Level Up 14% Completed
Level up: 14% Level up: 14% Level up: 14%
Forum Activity 26%
Activity: 26% Activity: 26% Activity: 26%
FF Reputation: 1 Silencer23 Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
What is a normal hot idle MAP reading, at 780m above sea ? I get 3.5PSI of pressure in the manifold.
Silencer23 is offline  
    Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-11-2019, 10:39 AM   #18
Focus Enthusiast
 
Fourspeed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Fan#: 404647
Location: Dousman, WI
What I Drive: 2007 Focus S, 72 Duster 340

Posts: 140
Points 407, Level 8
Points: 407, Level: 8 Points: 407, Level: 8 Points: 407, Level: 8
Level Up 14% Completed
Level up: 14% Level up: 14% Level up: 14%
Forum Activity 12%
Activity: 12% Activity: 12% Activity: 12%
FF Reputation: 1 Fourspeed Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
Just asking... You don't have the hvac selector on defrost, do you? That will cycle the a/c compressor every few seconds.
Fourspeed is offline  
    Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-11-2019, 04:20 PM   #19
Focus Rookie
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Fan#: 409115
Posts: 8
Points 1, Level 1
Points: 1, Level: 1 Points: 1, Level: 1 Points: 1, Level: 1
Level Up 0% Completed
Level up: 0% Level up: 0% Level up: 0%
Forum Activity 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
FF Reputation: 1 03blksvt1 Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
According to master techs motor mount placement doesnt matter. Except of course when Ford directly addresses this issue in aTSB. Any ways to remove vibration (engine related) all mounts must be loose car unsupported and jack up the engine transmission assembly . rock the car forward and rear ward letting the car settle in position. tighten all mounts and lower the assembly. This is a Ford certified repair from a Ford ASSET "master tech". Personally I love it when people expect a focus to ride, drive, operate, shift and brake like a luxury car.
03blksvt1 is offline  
    Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-11-2019, 04:34 PM   #20
Focus Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Fan#: 96610
Location: Fort Worth, TX
What I Drive: 00 wagon, 02 sedan both zetec atx

Posts: 15,209
Points 9,388, Level 65
Points: 9,388, Level: 65 Points: 9,388, Level: 65 Points: 9,388, Level: 65
Level Up 13% Completed
Level up: 13% Level up: 13% Level up: 13%
Forum Activity 100%
Activity: 100% Activity: 100% Activity: 100%
FF Reputation: 62 amc49 Excellent Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
X2.

The Contour 'required' a 'powertrain alignment tool' that supposedly lined up the engine/trans in the frame, I never used one and simply centered up bolt holes in the bracket holes to never shake at all using the same zetec motor.
__________________
Fix the driver first, then fixing the car becomes so much easier..........
amc49 is offline  
    Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Bookmarks & Social Networks

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Ford Focus Forum, Ford Focus ST Forum, Ford Focus RS Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:
What I Drive
Year, color, and model of your car. Example: 2003 Focus Centennial Edition Sedan
Name
Your real name.
City
State
Country
Insurance
Please select your insurance company (Optional)

Log-in


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:20 AM.


Copyright 2002-2015 FocusFanatics.com. All Rights Reserved : : Advertise Information

Focus Fanatics Ford Focus Forum offers many fun ways for you to engage with other Ford Focus Owners from across the world. Whether it be about the aftermarket performance modifications, technical how-to's, European tuned suspension or awesome fuel economy similar to the Mazda CX-3, Audi S3, Mazda MX-5 Miata and Acura TLX. You can find all Ford Focus, Focus ST and Focus RS related information here. Join our Ford Focus discussion forums and chat with local Focus enthusiasts in your area. If you own other makes have a look at Challenger Hellcat Forum, Charger Hellcat Forum, Cadillac ATS-V Forum, Cadillac CTS-V Forum, Lexus RC-F Forum, Lexus GS-F Forum, Mercedes GLA Forum, Mercedes GLE Forum and Volvo XC90 Forum.




 

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.1