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Old 06-25-2019, 01:17 PM  
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2009 Ford Focus random engine shut off

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I recently bought a 2009 Silver Ford Focus SE back in Feb of this year. Since around a week or so ago, I have been experiencing some issues lately where the dashboard Engine, Battery, and oil lights would suddenly come on, and the engine would shut off while i'm either driving, reversing, or making a turn which also makes the steering wheel lock up. Also seems to me as if it's happening more so when I sometimes press down on the brakes. If I put the car in neutral or park, and turn the key, the engine will turn on without issue. Also took the car to AutoZone and had both the battery and alternator checked, and they told me both were fine.


I called a mechanic friend of mines to check the issue for me, as I'm not really an expert on cars. He plugged some device into the OEM port, and was getting a p1780 code, we then popped the hood and to find out the engine is misfiring, when he opened up all 4 the spark plug wells, we found out oil has been leaking into all of them. He drained as much of the oil as he could, cleaned the spark plugs as well and put everything back. I went and took it yesterday to my local Ford dealer to have them check it out. This is the second time I had take it there, back in April they had to replace the ignition lock module due to the car not starting up sometimes. This time I had both the horn and the valve cover gasket replaced. And apparently the error code my mechanic friend was receiving had somehow been wiped from the system, so they we're not getting any errors at all when they checked. Was also told that I needed all 3 powertrain mounts installed, which I declined due to it being so expensive to have that job done through them. After picking the car from there earlier this morning, and $490 dollars later, I've had the engine shut off on me three times today while driving. This is infuriating as all hell. So I'm here wondering if anyone had any ideas as to why this issue could be happening?


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Old 06-25-2019, 02:12 PM  
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Ford dealer = profit center. I would look for a reputable independent repair shop for future diagnosis/repair (look for one that is ASE certified).

Was the $490 for the VC gasket and horn?

P1780 is a transmission DTC and I feel it is unlikely to be the cause of the engine shutting off but I could be wrong.

Is the engine suddenly 'shutting off' at cruising speed or is it 'stalling' during low speed maneuvering?

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Hello, thanks for taking a moment to read my thread. As for the $490, from the paperwork given to me, $325 was for the labor, $123 for the parts, And 32 bucks for sales tax when broken down.

As for your other question. I really want to say it's during low speed maneuvering. I mean the engine did shut off as I was in the middle of making a left turn up the street from where I live, seizing up the steering wheel which caused me to nearly hit a curb. The second time was when I was coming to a stop during a red light at an intersection. Also when this happens the auto door lock seems to go off as well.

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Agree with Paul about finding a shop vs the $$$ dealer.

You mentioned the steering wheel locking up when the engine dies and you mentioned that the dealer replaced your ignition switch/lock months earlier. Might be related. Your steering wheel shouldn't lock just b/c the engine died.

Your P1780 code:
https://www.bluespringsfordparts.com...decoded-p1780/
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The best mechanic shops I've ever seen are not ASE-certified. The best mechanic I have ever seen is not ASE certified. I got my associate's degree in automotive technology I know how it works ASE is a money-making organization that's it. It's a multiple choice test it determines nothing.

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you have an electrical issue of some sort it's just a matter of figuring out what it is. I remember this Pontiac that I worked on it had a broken battery cable and depending on the angle of the car it would either connect or it wouldn't.

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Sharing some photos of inside the hood of my Focus taken earlier. And it looks like someone left a little surprise wedged in there too.












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Behind the 'surprise' and resting on the front engine mount there is a electrical component (ignition capacitor) that has been disconnected. Is that your doing or did you find it that way with the pliers?

The ignition capacitor bracket normally mounts to the small threaded hole towards the upper right in the second photograph I copied. Failure or inadvertant grounding of this component has been reported to cause ignition problems. My understanging is it can be completely disconnected without issue but if it is internally or externally shorted that can cause ignition issues. Im also not sure if it needs to be connected both at its grounding pigtail (which it still appears to be) and its bracket to be functional. Not sure why its unbolted like that or if it has anything to do with you issue but is very suspicious to me.

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Hello. I found it that way with the pliers tucked left in there by someone, as I was taking these pics to post it on the forums. I will stress I'm not an expert on cars or their components, but I also found it strange that part you mention is not secured to anything. Also. Do you know what that P1703 code means? Could that have anything to do with my issue?
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