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Old 04-11-2019, 09:12 PM   #1
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2006 2.0 Vibration

Trying to track down a vibration, need some suggestions:

Car has all new mounts, plugs, rear wheel bearings, front control arms/ball joints, brakes are not warped, rear shocks, intermediate shaft, passenger axle, all 4 tires balanced out (twice), no play in the wheel bearings or tie rods.

So it has a strange issue that comes and goes. A vibration around 52 to 80... Can be felt in the seat and the gas pedal/ floorboard. Parts above were changed and or bad at the time. Seems the vibration would get better for a day or so then go back to how it was when a bad part was changed. Have turned the engine off to verify at specified speeds to see if it was an engine vibration and nothing changes. There are no mifires or CEL either. Ive troubleshooted almost everything imaginable, unless this is leading down to the cpu not receiving the correct signal possibly at the given speed.


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Old 04-11-2019, 09:37 PM   #2
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I had a '00 zx3 that had the same issue, turns out it was the tires, they were balanced but the car wasn't balanced, the shop balanced the tires on the car and it went away

Most shops won't do this anymore though
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Old 04-11-2019, 10:18 PM   #3
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Post mileage please.
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I had a '00 zx3 that had the same issue, turns out it was the tires, they were balanced but the car wasn't balanced, the shop balanced the tires on the car and it went away.


What ??????????????
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Please explain how you balance tires on car.
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Old 04-12-2019, 12:07 AM   #6
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The car didn't have a diff/lsd, so they would Jack one side just off the ground, run it up to 45 but due to one tire being stationary the tire spinning was doing 90. From there they would move the weight around until the vibrating essentially stopped. Then do it all over again for the other side. Therefore balancing the tires on the car.

The drivetrain wasn't balanced so the tires were used to balance the whole front end
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Old 04-12-2019, 05:12 AM   #7
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I'll be the first to call bullsh-t.

Incompetent shop there. Only an utter moron speeds one tire up to 90 mph on a single trac diff, you are screaming for damage there. Excellent way to explode the diff spider gears. Probably did not neutral out the axle angle either and even worse. You can have a tire balance with too much weight on the inside and too little on the other side but weight still adds up to correct and still shakes. As well the tire can balance perfectly but if out of round due to oscillation wear on the back position then it STILL shakes, that is not a condition that balance can fix.

The drivetrains do NOT balance nor do the axles beyond how they come, they are too small in OD and turn too slow to affect ride due to balance.

How about this for a shocker? I have three running cars that have no balance weight on wheels AT ALL. The cars run fine and tires wear the same. I can feel the difference at 80 mph but so slight nobody else in the cars can pick up on it. I haven't balanced any of those wheels on several sets of tires now over the years.

I have to go up and down a gravel drive, it is useless to finely balance tires that get different patterns of rocks stuck in them every single day.


OP, if talking about speed sensor effects, they will show in other things but not that problem. Don't overlook the mounts and even more if they were not official Ford parts. The pass side upper one can under odd circumstance show vibration from the ROAD rather than the engine as it also dampens road vibration. If you mainly feel the vibration come and go as the car rises and settles say on freeway rolls and slight hills or swerves then suspect that mount maybe. If aftermarket suspect it for sure, the aftermarket parts are often utter crap right out of the boxes, I used to sell them.
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You can call bullshit if you like, it still doesn't negate the fact that this was the only way to get it balanced, and also fixed this issue which sounds very much the same

Hell one of the rims were slightly bent and this is how it was found

Is it safe, probably not, is it safe mechanically, probably not as well. But it worked, and floated down the interstate
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Just because there is no play in the front wheel bearings does not mean they are not bad and causing vibration.
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X2 post #9, some are simply torn up enough to close up play but still dead.

Post #8 give up, you are proving more and more you are ill-informed. If truly fixed then the first balance job was incompetent, off the car balancing ALWAYS does a better job but of course the worker has to care. The bent wheel should have easily been caught off the car, easier in fact, but it may not be bent at all. If oscillation kicked in due to other parts balancing on car unloaded then the wheel wasn't bent yet appeared to be and now you have the problem still but masked by the way balanced to again show up in the future. Duh.

Now if you yank a wheel to place another one on (tire rotation) you cannot use another wheel, it was not part of that overall balance job, hell, you can't even pull the same tire off and put it back on now as it must be marked to go back on exactly the same way, or again, out of balance. You spread your balance condition to now include the disc and everything else.

Why you balance OFF the car to have universally even tires that can go anywhere to rotate.

We don't call that smart here.
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