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Old 01-10-2019, 08:40 PM   #21
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Yeah it fits no problem. I'm just worried that an oem disk wouldn't hold over 200whp well enough.
Plus I can't find a full face, 8 puck disc for sale by itself.
I found plent of 4 and 6 puck disks online, but the only others available seem to be oem and "stg 1" disks.
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Will a stock type disc not fit your aftermarket pressure plate?

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Old 02-27-2019, 06:10 PM   #22
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So, UPDATE AGAIN. Still no clutch!!

I have officially swapped 2 new slaves a new MC, I just replaced the disc that had sheared the pads off and I replaced the pressure plate too.
Everything has been replaced at least once now.
The pressure line is not swelling or leaking when clutch is pressed.

There are zero leaks anywhere.

I easily get all of the bubbles out in minutes and have a firm pedal, same as before.

Still no clutch.

Only thing I haven't replaced is the line (which feels good the wbole run and doesn't leak), and the flywheel.

I did have it turned, but, where I take all my focus FWs, they always do a perfect job and check the specs afterward to make sure all is well.

I am at the point of blaming it though.

I am sick of pulling this trans and putting it back in only to be laughed at.

My SVT and daily ZX3 bleed in 5 minutes or less and work perfect everytime.

I have had the trans on this turd in and out 3 times now with the same result.

Great pedal, no clutch.

No one has ever had this ridiculous problem?

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Old 04-23-2019, 04:09 PM   #23
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Update again:
Pulled transmission again.
Everything looks perfect.
Flywheel isn't mounted crooked.
Bolts are all tight.
I swapped the clutch line before pulling the trans and it rebled no problem but still no disengagement.

Again, I can hear the slave start moving at the very top of the pedal, and I hear it travel back and forth very well, but, the dang clutch will not release.

I rotated the engine and kept checking the distance from the FW to a part of the block to see of maybe I had bent the crank's FW flange, but it seems straight.

I guess I could put it all back together AGAIN for the 4th time and try a 3rd master cylinder.
I'm going to change brands of slave cylinder since I'm back in here as well, incase this design just doesn't have quite perfect specs.

I guess I'll be buying a new FW too, since it's the only thing that isn't brand new.

No one has ever had this problem?
Help. Somebody.
Lolz.
This thing has been ready to drive for 8 months!

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I remember this Ford ranger from probably 9 years ago. They pulled the transmission multiple times. It wound up being the wrong slave cylinder / release bearing it was never reaching to press on the pressure plate.

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Old 04-24-2019, 01:11 AM   #25
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My bad.......................just making it worse and no need for that.

We did have a similar issue at first on the twin disc clutches we used to drag race, we had to throw out all ideas of what the working distances were there to come up with new for that specific setup. It changed from car to car too.

You have to put the working space of the PP in the same place as the working space of the TOB. We also found that if you stroked the PP slightly too deep then the clutch began to lock again, the amount of TOB movement there was pretty critical. A lot of measuring to get it right, we set up the PP release numbers on a drillpress to be able to tell exactly when the discs released.
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Old 04-24-2019, 10:15 PM   #26
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I remember this Ford ranger from probably 9 years ago. They pulled the transmission multiple times. It wound up being the wrong slave cylinder / release bearing it was never reaching to press on the pressure plate.

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I am going to switch to a totally different brand just incase that is my issue, and, I bought a new OEM FW incase mine is ground down too thin, though, the machine shop said it was in spec.

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Old 04-24-2019, 10:21 PM   #27
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Yoooo....
The only thing I haven't swapped is the FW, and, I'm wondering if the resurface took it just out of usable spec. Or...
The machinist also knows me as "the SVT focus guy" (guess I'm the only one that comes there) and I wonder if his guys ground it to specs for an SVT.
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My bad.......................just making it worse and no need for that.

We did have a similar issue at first on the twin disc clutches we used to drag race, we had to throw out all ideas of what the working distances were there to come up with new for that specific setup. It changed from car to car too.

You have to put the working space of the PP in the same place as the working space of the TOB. We also found that if you stroked the PP slightly too deep then the clutch began to lock again, the amount of TOB movement there was pretty critical. A lot of measuring to get it right, we set up the PP release numbers on a drillpress to be able to tell exactly when the discs released.
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Entirely possible, flywheel too far away will definitely affect that.

When parts start getting changed up if the setup still works well fine, but if it doesn't you have to throw all people telling you 'it's right' out the window to find out for yourself what is actually workable there. The stack up of distances there often throws things off.

It's right ain't sh-t if it's not working.
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Swapped in a brand new OEM flywheel.
Same exact good pedal, but no freaking clutch.

Now it is official, every single part is new, including the clutch line, and it still won't let go of the engine.

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Yeah it fits no problem. I'm just worried that an oem disk wouldn't hold over 200whp well enough.
Plus I can't find a full face, 8 puck disc for sale by itself.
I found plent of 4 and 6 puck disks online, but the only others available seem to be oem and "stg 1" disks.

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I looked thru your thread, So what Flywheel, PP, disc & throwout are you using?
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