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Old 01-18-2018, 10:56 PM   #11
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Sorry for talking about the 2004, but I was doing a comparison between your 05 verses my 04. Some of this is me talking out loud...

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The GEM turn signal fuse is #32 and the liftgate release is #37...
Yeah, based on your descriptions, and my 2004 wire diagrams, there are some unique differences between the 2004 vs 2005 with these 2 systems.

Both 04 and 05 share fuse-32 as GEM power. The 04 wire diagrams name this fuse as GEM, while the 04 owners manual calls it "turn signals". Both 04 and 05 use fuse-32, it is for the GEM, which controls the turn signals. "GEM turn signals" is clearly the best name.

2004 does not have a fuse for the liftgate (between the GEM and liftgate latch) so I will assume my fuse-32 would blow if my car had a short in the wiring between the GEM and liftgate release latch.

Ah crap. I just found page 117-6 in the 2004 wire diagrams called "Sedan, Late Production". This shows me how (some 04 sedan are wired) your 2005 sedan is wired. It includes fuse-37. I am not going to attempt to explain this diagram, but here is the summary...

Your Sedan has 1 (and sometimes 2) always HOT (aka voltage-hot) wires are running in the trunk area; likely thru the rubber umbilical mentioned earlier. This can and will blow-up fuses when the wiring is messed up back there.

Inspect that wiring, inside the umbilical, very-very carefully.

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P.S. - I now remember running into this exact thing once before. Not too long ago. Learn. Forget. Re-learn. Rinse, repeat.
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:51 PM   #12
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Well as I suspected the short was in the trunk. Took the plastic cover off where the wiring harness crosses over to the passenger side turn signals and there was the culprit. Wires that were smashed and fused together. Much appreciation to Marde for his help all the way through this process.
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Old 01-20-2018, 12:43 AM   #13
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Well as I suspected the short was in the trunk. Took the plastic cover off where the wiring harness crosses over to the passenger side turn signals and there was the culprit. Wires that were smashed and fused together...
Please post again. I am unsure where you found the wiring problem. Please explain the exact location of the culprit?
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Underneath the plastic black cover by the opening of the trunk on the drivers side, the wires for the turn signals go from the driver to the passenger side turn signals. In between the wires were shorted together. Open your trunk and look straight down. You will see a plastic black cover going from one side to the other. Held on by plastic push pin screws. I don't know if the hatches are the same though? Thanks again for all your help.
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Old 01-20-2018, 04:07 PM   #15
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Thanks for the added details. Always good to see any thread closed with a fixed car.

My trunk space is a little different than yours, -mine is a wagon.

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Hi! Very new here! I’m on my own now, and I need to fix my car. This thread has helped me so far. I know what to check now! I have a 2005 ZXW (wagon), it’s my third, and I love them sooo much! I know to check the wiring in the hatch, would that be the only place to check? I know to disconnect the battery, but wiring diagrams are very confusing. I’m a left brainer, and would appreciate any directions, you tube tutorials, etc. I have a young son, and rely heavily on this car - no extra money to take it in to be fixed. I’m not a complete idiot...lol, just new. ✌️�� I will be going to check the wiring in the hatch. It did look sketchy the last time I examined it (a year ago)??
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