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Old 01-31-2016, 09:08 PM   #1
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Delayed downshift

So for about the last 2 weeks I've been noticing a delayed downshift out of overdrive into passing gear when driving at highway speeds. It seems to be less of a problem at 45-50 mph because I am not on the throttle near as much. Seems to slip into neutral for a split second and then slam into 3rd. The upshift are fine just the downshift from 4th to 3rd gear. The trans fluid was flushed at 60, 130k, and at 190k I just dropped the pan and checked all the resistance readings on all six solenoids and they are all within spec. So I changed the filter and dropped the pan twice to replace the majority of the old trans fluid with new mercon V. The old fluid was red and didn't smell burnt and there was very little filings on the magnet in the pan. I drove 500 miles yesterday and it drove fine other than the 4-3 downshift. No CEL or codes either I'm stumped???

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Old 01-31-2016, 09:49 PM   #3
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Old 02-01-2016, 12:03 AM   #4
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Stumped???

Never heard of transmission wear huh? They DO wear out.

The problem with today, everybody thinks solenoids fix everything.

Can be wear issues with band, servo or possible forward clutch.
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Old 02-01-2016, 07:24 AM   #5
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I've never had a anything that didn't start slipping when the trans wore out. It's not slipping it's acting like it's not sure what gear it's in coming out of overdrive.

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Old 02-01-2016, 07:57 AM   #6
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I had an Escort that had 220k on it that they said needed rebuilt, because every once in awhile it wouldn't go in gear. And it ended up being low line pressure, I turned the line pressure up to spec and put another 20k on it before I sold it.

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Yeah the auto will be a ***** sometimes when I let off the gas trying to get it downshift it'll hang up for a second
It does one of those things where you hit the gas and its maybe in 2nd or 3rd gear but it takes a second before it kicks in its probably just wear.
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Old 02-01-2016, 02:17 PM   #8
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I just thought if it was something that could be fixed for a couple hundred bucks and not have to pull the trans I'd check into it. But I'm only looking to get another 1-2 years out of it so I guess I'll just drive it till it breaks for good. It just seems weird that if it's wear then why isn't it getting worse it's been acting up for the last 4-5k miles.

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Old 02-02-2016, 02:37 AM   #9
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Sometimes they take a year or two to wear more to change the effect.

I'm curious as to exactly what you 'turned up' to get more line pressure. The problem being if you do it for a single hydro issue then it will be too high for other normally working parts and can easily damage trans. Unless the issue was pump itself.

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'Seems to slip into neutral for a split second...'

is slip whether you realize it or not. Just for a fractional second. Momentary slip like that can go for a while but once it increases in amount the trans gets much closer to the end.

Any trouble at all going from 3 into 4 under a hard load? ANY shift requires both gears to release or engage in a certain time to occur correctly. If you are getting a bit of flareup going 3-4 then could be as simple as a longer band bolt to tighten it up a bit. Band being slightly loose can release slightly early to slip just before third clutch pack locks up on a 4-3 shift. Or the third clutch pack leaking slightly to delay it too if no issues going 3-4. The slip can come from either way being errored.
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The servo piston pin comes loose on these to make any number of shift errors from 2-3-4. Not that hard to get to it.
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