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Old 12-23-2014, 04:42 PM   #1
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ZX3 Circle Track Help

I Race A 02 ZX3 On A 1/4 mile Asphalt Oval Track, and need some help mid turn to out of corner. Car Pushes Bad If I Drive Into The Corner Hard But Have To In Order To Beat An Acura Intregra & A Honda Civic Hatchback. All Stock Class With Some Modifications Allowed.

Here's My Current Setup:
185/60/14 Falken ZE912 All The Way Around (Also Run 15's On Occasion)
2 Degrees Negative Camber RF
1.5 Positive Camber DF
Strut Mount Are Drilled To Allowed Camber Adjustment.
Strut Mount Support Bar.
Stock Sway Bar Front & Rear
Car Is Lowered With Cut Springs in Rear And Don't Remember What Fronts Are.
Stock 2.0 Zetec W/ A Spectre Intake W/ The Terrible ATX But It Gets The job Done. (GOING TO DO THE MTX SWAP WHEN I CAN.)
Stock Header With Clear CAT & Custom Straight Pipe That Exits The Side of Car, In Front of RR.

What Rules Allow:
8 Engine
8.1 Any engine to any chassis within manufacturer's line (Toyota to Toyota, Ford to Ford, etc.).
8.2 Four (4) cylinder only. No turbo engines.
8.3 All engine components must be stock.
8.4 Engine must remain in stock location for make and model.
8.5 Firewalls may not be moved or altered.
8.6 Stock production cylinder head only. No shaving, enlarging, polishing or grinding of head ports. No aluminum heads other than stock.
8.7 Stock flywheel only.
8.8 Intake and exhaust manifolds must be stock, with no match porting, grinding, or polishing of the head.
8.9 Fuel Delivery
8.9.1 Any OEM carburetor.
8.9.2 Must have at least two throttle return springs anchored in two different locations in opposite directions.
8.9.3 Must be stock or aftermarket fuel pump.
5 Suspension
5.1 All suspension mounting brackets must be of stock components and in stock location for make and model.
5.2 Upper strut mounts cannot be moved. May brace from strut tower to strut tower.
16 Wheels
16.1 Stock rims only.
16.2 Each wheel must have stock brakes in good working order.
16.3 Tires
16.3.1 No wider than 185 Series
16.3.2 No Smaller than 60 Series
16.3.4 Tread wear will be 300 or harder.
16.3.5 Must be a \S, T, U, H Speed rating.

Here's A Photo of My Car


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Any & All Help Would Be Much Appreciated. Thank You In Advance


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Old 12-24-2014, 08:24 PM   #2
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Yours rules package listed don't speak to trans modifications. The mtx allows for a few different final drive ratios, 3.42. 3.82 4.06 4.25. These by themselves will change how the car runs and where in the torque band the car will run. Also a limited slip would work with any of these gears in an mtx, you may also be able to put one in your current box. You could also weld the box to a solid diff. Have you ever tried running with no front bar, in road racing we run a more developed suspension but no front bar for us works wonders, we also run really big rear bars and spring rates. Since the motor is open to what goes into the platform, bigger could be better, 2.3 liter Duratec .
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I would upgrade the rear bar. Svt bar is biggest oem. Also consider rear wagon springs. They,re stiffer, but would be too tall. U might need to cut them down.

As for engine. Any ford 4 cyl? Put a 2.5 out of a fusion/escape
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Nice track car! If your wanting to put some power down and turn your going to need a diff to put it down and help you turn. You'll have to do some serious case modding to fit a diff in the auto but it can be done though if you do the MTX swap that would make that whole thing a lot easier.
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Old 12-25-2014, 03:35 AM   #5
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why not just run the full svt suspension setup?
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Old 12-25-2014, 09:53 AM   #6
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I would upgrade the rear bar. Svt bar is biggest oem. Also consider rear wagon springs. They,re stiffer, but would be too tall. U might need to cut them down.

As for engine. Any ford 4 cyl? Put a 2.5 out of a fusion/escape
So i'm new to setup and all that, my brother usually does all that and I just show up and drive. What does upgrading the rear suspension do? shouldnt I upgrade the front suspension?
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Nice track car! If your wanting to put some power down and turn your going to need a diff to put it down and help you turn. You'll have to do some serious case modding to fit a diff in the auto but it can be done though if you do the MTX swap that would make that whole thing a lot easier.
Thank you! As of right now I think the MTX Swap is going to be next off seasons project as funds are quite low. I can pull the integra & civic on the straights but they're getting me in the corners. My biggest issue I need help with right now is handling in the corner from mid to mid out. cause like I mentioned, if i drive into the corner "too hard" I push bad.(probably should have been more clear in original post)

I came across some custom camber plates from http://www.goldcoastautomotive.com that I think im going to order and try to allow for more camber and some caster.

They can be found here: http://goldcoastautomotive.com/cgi-b...ive&item=39417
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why not just run the full svt suspension setup?
I didn't know you could use parts from svt. like i mentioned earlier i'm new to all this. what all can you use off an svt? does it have to be in same year range as if i was pulling parts from the junk yard? Thank you.
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SVT springs/shocks are a bit lower & stiffer, and they're "stock" & will bolt in to your car. The brakes are larger as well, including discs at the rear if you can find them. Couldn't use the brakes within your rules I don't think, as they need larger rims for clearance (stock 15" alloys won't fit over them).

Stiffening up the rear will keep the nose flatter and let the rear slide more to equalize cornering (more balanced with less understeer).
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everything from the SVT platform will swap over and I would assume since it came as a stock option you should be able to run it on your track car. and would definitely perform better then some cut up stock spring lol
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