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Old 04-20-2011, 03:57 PM   #1
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2012 Mazda 3 further heats up the compact car wars (NOT SO FAST FORD!)

Wow. We are about to witness probably the most intense competition in the history of the compact car in the next following years.

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/04/20/2...pdated-exteri/







Mazda says that the new 2.0-liter, direct-injection four-cylinder is good for 155 horsepower and 148 pound-feet of torque, which offers modest increases over the old, non-DI 2.0-liter mill.

Approximately 4.4 pounds lighter than the current MZR 2.0-liter engine, the SKYACTIV 2.0-liter adopts multi-hole injectors to enhance fuel spray characteristics, along with specially developed piston cavity shapes that ensure a shorter combustion time and suppresses the impact on power and torque from engine knocking. Pumping loss is also decreased by employing dual sequential valve timing (S-VT).

The 2012 Mazda3 achieves a high compression ratio of 12.0:1 and delivers 155 horsepower at 6,000 rpm and 148 lb-ft of torque at 4,100 rpm. (The PZEV version of this engine sold in California and other states produces 154 hp at 6,000 rpm and 148 lb-ft of torque at 4,100 rpm).

When equipped with the SKYACTIV-G gasoline engine and optional SKYACTIV-Drive six-speed automatic transmission, the 2012 Mazda3 sedan will achieve an EPA rating of 40 mpg on the highway,

With a fuel tank capacity of 14.5 gallons, the 2012 Mazda3 sedan with SKYACTIV has the potential of a 540-mile range, with still a gallon of fuel remaining. City mpg for the sedan version also improves by 17 percent to 28 mpg. When equipped with the SKYACTIV-MT six-speed manual transmission, the sedan is rated with an estimated fuel economy of 27 city/39 highway.

The higher fuel economy of the 2012 Mazda3 equipped with SKYACTIV is a direct result of combining all the best features of the technology in today's transmissions. For SKYACTIV-Drive, the key advantages of a conventional automatic transmission, Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT) and Dual Clutch Transmission (DCT) were integrated. In addition, a torque converter with a lock-up clutch was developed to ensure minimal decrease in fuel economy and an increase in direct drive feel.

Also available on the 2012 Mazda3 is the highly-acclaimed Mazda MZR 2.5-liter engine. Alongside the SKYACTIV-G 2.0-liter, the MZR 2.5 is a technology powerhouse as well.Providing 167 hp at 6,000 rpm and 168 lb-ft of torque at 4,000 rpm, the MZR 2.5-liter engine is available with a six-speed manual transmission or a five-speed electronically-controlled automatic with manual shift control. (The PZEV version of this engine sold in California and other states produces 165 hp at 6,000 rpm and 167 lb-ft of torque at 4,000 rpm). The MZR 2.5-liter engine achieves EPA figures of 20 city and 28 highway with a manual transmission and 22 city and 29 highway with the automatic.

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And then in the next following years we should see a future Elantra sedan with GDI and CVVL tech plus dual clutch...compact car segment is really going to be a totally sweet spot for all types of buyers! .

And btw...Mazda's SKYACTIV employs HCCI tech...in case you have no idea what it is.. here are two articles you can read about it..basically doesn't use spark plugs and the engine's not exactly downsized to the likes of DI engines you see in the 2012 Focus and the 2011 Sonata

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car...gines-car_news
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...vations_page_2


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Old 04-20-2011, 04:02 PM   #2
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My mom loves her 2010 3, thinks its the cutest thing in the world (I think its hideous) but the thing is excellent to drive and the interior is also excellent.

With the new 2.0 they have here, makes me wonder what the point of keeping the 2.5L around...a few more HP/TQ but a drastic reduction in MPG.
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Old 04-20-2011, 04:19 PM   #3
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i agree , most ppl will want the mpg with gas prices as they are. i think they are nice cars but am not a fan of the smiley face grill, i cvould over look it i think tho if i ever found a killer deal on a speed3
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I'm a big fan of the Speed3. However, I think the new 4 door sedan Mazda 3's like the picture above are hidious. I much prefer the 5 door hatch's.
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Test drove a Mazda 3 sedan the other day and I was not very impressed. The steering wheel felt too heavy at low speeds, and at high speeds it felt like I had no control over the car. I also found it hard to get used to the sensitivity of the break pedal. The interior materials are not very nice and after 10 minutes the seat started to hurt my back. I sat in the back seat of both the Mazda 3 and the 12' Focus on the same day and the rear seat of the Focus is much more comfortable.

Unless this new Mazda 3 fixes some of the issues I found during my test drive, it won't be a contender in my books when time comes to shop.
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That interior is very sexy.
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Isn't this still essentially the Focus in Mazda skin?
I still love the big :D
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I think Ford has sold off a large percentage of their ownership in Mazda and I think you will see Mazda pull away from Ford's influence, but I would still buy the Focus over the Mazda 3.
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Ford now only owns about 3% of Mazda. The new Mazdas are almost entirely Mazda specific.
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The upcoming ones will further distance itself but for the time being this one is still similar
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