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Old 08-02-2018, 09:44 PM   #1
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Passenger tire spinning when jacked up and car on

Is there any way to stop this??...between that incredibly hot and low exhaust manifold and cat and that tire spinning along with my general clumsiness I am concerned about working under the car with it running.

I'd like to keep things simple as to avoid getting injured.

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What are you working on that needs the motor on?
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:58 PM   #3
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What are you working on that needs the motor on?
Verifying fluid leakage that won't necessarily manifest itself with the car off. I am sure that there will be plenty of other similar situations where I need to run the car with me under it. Leaking exhaust location verification etc.

This is pretty annoying!
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Old 08-03-2018, 01:00 AM   #4
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In the first place one ALWAYS looks to minimize to virtually NOTHING the number of times one has to get under a running car. I've worked on 4 of them at a time for 40+ years and never had to do that except possibly once. Thinking one has to multiple times IS A MISTAKE.

If one wheel is touching down and you are in gear you CANNOT stop the tire in the air from spinning and trying to will jerk the car off of whatever has it jacked in the air. TAKE CAR OUT OF GEAR. The one tire spins at twice the rate of normal, that is, 30 mph is 60 mph. You can tear the trans up doing that.

Trying not to be insulting but it is what it is, only an idiot wants to get under a running car multiple times.
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Old 08-03-2018, 06:06 AM   #5
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In the first place one ALWAYS looks to minimize to virtually NOTHING the number of times one has to get under a running car. I've worked on 4 of them at a time for 40+ years and never had to do that except possibly once. Thinking one has to multiple times IS A MISTAKE.

If one wheel is touching down and you are in gear you CANNOT stop the tire in the air from spinning and trying to will jerk the car off of whatever has it jacked in the air. TAKE CAR OUT OF GEAR. The one tire spins at twice the rate of normal, that is, 30 mph is 60 mph. You can tear the trans up doing that.

Trying not to be insulting but it is what it is, only an idiot wants to get under a running car multiple times.
I am a bit surprised that you'd post something like this given the history that you have had of helping me in the past.

Since I am an idiot, should I just quit my job, stop feeding my family, give up on life?

Your comment about not wanting to call me an idiot but calling me one anyways is really passive aggressive.

I live in a high rip off area and people are MASTERS at conning other people.

For example, I purchased another vehicle where someone put air fresheners in the vehicle to mask a problem. It was losing coolant but none was falling onto the ground. I ruled out a bad head gasket. After a few months of smelling coolant but never being able to find it, I decided to put it on jackstands and run it. The coolant was slowly sweating out of the back of the jb welded rear head. Had I not gotten under it with the vehicle running it is not reasonable to assume that I would have found it and/or it could have taken me years to find it. Even worse I could have wasted my time and money changing out parts that I did not need to. Sure I could have used a radiator pressure tester but I did not know about that until a few years later. Even then, people will tell you that it is the best thing since sliced bread and then disappear because they really didn't understand how to use it.

How about AWD/RWD vehicles when you have an unusual noise coming from the rear? Sure, I can have people follow me all over the yard as I make circles but that is not always practical.

I can think of other examples.

My point is, I am not doubting your experiences so I'd appreciate it if you don't doubt mine.

With that said, the vehicle is supported by jack stands. It is running and NOT in gear. The right front wheel is turning on it's own.

Perhaps something is wrong with the trans?
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I've always used racks to figured out what the problems are if you need the motor on & the car up off the ground....Now not having access to a rack anymore...I was changing oil over at a guys shop & had him jump in to fix out the noise I had= it turned out to be the carrier bearing on the passenger side axle that was rattling around. Real bummer about where you live...Possibly next time you possibly might look further out (search radius) for a vehicle. You'll find some open diff's turn a wheel when the other is touching the ground as thats the spider gears working.
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I've always used racks to figured out what the problems are if you need the motor on & the car up off the ground....Now not having access to a rack anymore...I was changing oil over at a guys shop & had him jump in to fix out the noise I had= it turned out to be the carrier bearing on the passenger side axle that was rattling around. Real bummer about where you live...Possibly next time you possibly might look further out (search radius) for a vehicle. You'll find some open diff's turn a wheel when the other is touching the ground as thats the spider gears working.
A rack would be super nice for situations like this. I read something about the cat reaching 80% of it's efficiency within 1 minute...seems pretty synonymous with a chance to get burnt within a minute to me. Today I started it up in neutral and BOTH tires were spinning. What fun! I was googling around and it seems that this is a natural occurrence on some vehicles (at least one tire spinning anyways).

Yeah it is tough living around here but this is where the jobs are. Apparently it is an awful place to buy cars though. I wait and wait and wait for a spread of vehicles that I like to come up. Unfortunately even that is not a remedy.

Even with a radius things end up being garbage or rusty.

With that said, I was able to watch the issue dynamically with GREAT care.

Thank you.
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The wheels on my 02 ZX5 also spin when on stands and engine running. If I grab the tire I can stop the rotation, so it's likely due to drag on the clutch pilot bearing. I would suggest to try and tie a rope from the wheel to the body on both sides. Try starting it up and testing before you climb under. I would also thing about double jack stands if you cant rig a set of ramps/blocks to set the wheels on.
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The wheels on my 02 ZX5 also spin when on stands and engine running. If I grab the tire I can stop the rotation, so it's likely due to drag on the clutch pilot bearing. I would suggest to try and tie a rope from the wheel to the body on both sides. Try starting it up and testing before you climb under. I would also thing about double jack stands if you cant rig a set of ramps/blocks to set the wheels on.
Thank you and great ideas!
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