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Old 02-19-2018, 09:04 AM   #1
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Traction control and ABS on my '04 lit up

Driving into work this morning in a huge snow storm we are having and the SVT drove great. Traction control and ABS worked about 75% of the 1 hour commute.

The last 10-15 min both the traction control and the ABS light on the dash lit up. And confirmed that both systems were non functional. I have a Xcal2 in the glove box and when I got to work rand to see if there were any codes. Got nothing (well other than a P0125 for a stuck upended thermostat)

What causes this to happen? Bad connection with a ABS sensor? Bad sensor? Could the ABS actuator/controller /I don't know what I am talking about cause this? Could the system of gotten "overloaded" and need a cool down or system restart?

My other foci does jot have the ABS or traction control so this aspect of the SVT is new to me.

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Old 02-19-2018, 12:12 PM   #2
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You need a scanner fancy enough to read abs codes... I'm assuming the xcal2 doesn't do that.

Next easiest things to check for are the fuse for the abs (under the dash), then look at the wheel sensors for physical damage if you can get a hold of an abs reader. If not those it's something else.

The lights might go out the next time you drive the car over 10mph, that's when the computer does the check for the abs system.
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I will check the fuse. Think it's #46 from other slides I have seen.

The Xcal2 is a full data logger, programer, and scanner tool. I would. Be surprised if it would not read or report codes. The abs code might just be a pids code that I need to hook the scanner up and log the pids data vs just looking at the DTC code.

Also will check the sensors when I get home. Do they go bad? It's just a HALL sensor so unless the encapsulation of the circuit has gone bad the part should last forever.

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I owned an xcal2 for a short while thinking I was going to get a tune, I don't remember it reading abs codes. I didn't play around with the pids though... but abs codes show up as DTCs (or like DTCs) in an abs enabled scanner.

The sensor is a hall type, but sometimes the wires get frayed, although I haven't known it to be a huge problem on these cars.
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Think I am going to have to get out the data logger.

So went out for lunch today, the TC and ABS lights went off as I started to pull away. But it appears when ever the system is actually used they stay on. If I reset the system (start/ignition cycle the car) they clear out until the system activates the traction control or the ABS feature.

I checked the fuse on the inside. #46 is clean and not blown.

I need to check the physical connections might need to clean them out, put some dielectric grease on them and then zip tie them to the plug so they cant come out. The plastic retaining clip on some of the wire harness connections are less then ideal on a 14 year old car.

Going to be up under the car tonight working on replacing the inner tie rods so will check all the connections while I have the car up on jack stands.
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When the t/c light comes on it blinks like around corners & such. Hardly ever see a t/c on, let alone a abs light. Only time for me is in the on position w/ motor off.
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Try disconnecting battery to reset.
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It comes on common when you are driving on a few inches of packed snow and another 4+" of snow + slush :-)

And you know it's not working because they are solid and also when the light goes on the system then stops working. And due to the again above conditions you can tell.
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Well, pulled each plug off sprayed with electrical connector cleaner, used compressed air to blow dry and used a liberal amount of dielectric grease. Did this on all 4 corners. Mid drive today (in yet another snow storm) after traction control working and ABS working the lights came on again. I wonder if I am getting a sensor at the end of life.

I plugged in the XCal2 searched ECU codes or pids. Did not find any, also confirmed with Tom that there are no ABS ran to the ECU except for a spark retard to manage the traction control.

The sensors are $30 a piece so that would be $120 in sensors if just replacing them...

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There is a way to test the sensors but you would have to find it on the net , been years sense I have had to test them

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