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Old 02-24-2019, 09:51 PM   #11
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I've owned an SE and now have a ST. An SE is not an ST........and my ST is not an RS. Next question.
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I am a "Modder". I have a 2012 SEL hatch. Not all mods are intended stricktly for performance. I have done the muffler delete (for sound), K&N drop in with RS lid, Snorkel delete and mini ram air hose. Call it placebo but it feels like it has more pick up but the purpose of modifying on my part was fuel economy. I am averaging 40.7 mpg (40% city/60% hwy). I drive 500 miles weekly and was averaging 37 before the mods. There are a few more things I can do but 3-4 mpg for $200 was worth it in my book.
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What I don’t get is this: Why spend 2-3k with mods on a commuter SE, when for 16-17k you can buy a low mileage ST? Makes no sense.


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Problem with buying a "low-mileage" ST is that you're only going to find ones that were abused, plasti-dipped, ebay modified, repo'd, etc.

You can buy a "low-mileage" mk3 SE for less than $10k. The question becomes "Why spend more on a junked ST when you can get a well-kept SE and save more than $5k?"
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Old 06-24-2019, 09:41 PM   #15
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And a nicely modded SE makes a better commuter because the mpg can double that of an ST. I wanted an ST but didn't want the low 20s mpg and mostly commute. A 5 speed SE with wheels/tires and a good sway bar, maybe a tune, is still an entertaining car to drive, nice to look at, cheap to insure, and cheap to fill up. That being said, my next car will probably be an 18 ST since hopefully it will be time for a weekend toy by that point.
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A 5 speed SE with wheels/tires and a good sway bar, maybe a tune, is still an entertaining car to drive, nice to look at, cheap to insure, and cheap to fill up.
Mine is mostly stock and I know it's not even close to an ST's performance, but it's a good commuter. Cheap to buy/insure, 37+ mpg hwy and it's comfortable on trips.

But, when I beat the hell out of it, it's quick enough to be fun and handles great on the factory 17's and suspension.
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I've noticed it's a little tippy in corners on the factory 17s and factory continental tires. I swear my 12 super base SE handled far better than my 15 SE sport and it had 15" wheels. Now granted it had the steeda rear sway bar the first week of ownership and I don't have one yet for my 15. I'm hoping the RSB will tighten up the steering just a bit by eliminating some of the body flex and roll when you jiggle the steering wheel or make a rapid lane change.
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I really wouldn't think they care.....ppl do what they're going to do whether its cost effective or not....Most seem to want to throw $50. to $200/300. at aesthetics vs function......I'd think most would be best served w/ a stock st to begin with & pay it off vs throwing miscellaneous parts/stuff at a stop gap vehicle.......
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I track all my vehicle expenses in a spreadsheet that lists mechanical vs aestetic investments and includes everything from oil changes to wiper blades. I've got $1200 into mine split pretty evenly between aesthetics and mechanical expenses (including new wheels and tires). For the money, I've got a very unique Focus that is comfortable, cheap to insure, cheap to gas up, and cheap to maintain.

An ST would have cost 8-10k more than I paid for my low miles 5speed SE Hatch. I think I'm on the right side of the math.
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