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Old 08-06-2019, 11:27 AM   #141
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So far no one wants to make them, so we are sourcing a wet clutch auto trans to replace the dct, we will advise once we have parts in house to test

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I have a 12 SEL 160ishk on it. Immediately after putting new summer tires on my Titanium wheels the DCT crapped on me, Transmission friction element A stuck on. I replaced clutch solenoid A to no avail. Ford of course says it needs clutches, which it does also according to their test, but that doesn't explain the craziness it is displaying or the code. It's not clutch slip I am experiencing. It gets stuck in the wrong gears and has serious trouble launching and accelerating sometimes. Makes some rough noises. On rare occasions it works ok. Sport and manual are locked out when it acts up usually. Manually shifting odd or even gears doesn't seem to prove much. I told them forget the clutches for now, based on the symptoms I described they agreed with me it sounded like a possible TCM. That wasn't it.

Bought my wife an 18 Mazda6 to replace it. Still have the car though and would like to fix it. Now based on the tidbits I've dug up on the Internet it sounds like either clutch levers or more likely the case itself wore out where the clutch levers pivot? I am wondering what you think and what it would cost to have you swap in as late a model junkyard DCT as we can attain at reasonable cost.

I am planning to ask Ford as well but I'm not sure they would put a used one in, and what they would charge. I would consider a manual swap as well but I like the DCT when it works and I'm guessing that would be cheaper?

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Old 08-14-2019, 07:33 AM   #142
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You have to ground the following cable: Solid Grey with an Orange Stripe. The wire you are looking for will come off of the wire harness/plug that went down to the TCM.

Just ground it to the frame, easy as that...

I just completed the Auto to Manual swap on my car this weekend (1.5 month long project), and that's exactly what I did and the engine starts no problem!

I used the Haynes manual (Page 12-25) to determine that the Solid Grey cable with an Orange Stripe was the cable I needed to ground.

If you need any further assistance with the wiring, I documented my entire swap on my youtube channel, just search youtube for "Ford Focus - Automatic to Manual Transmission Swap | Part 8". In that video I show the car starting and I put the transmission in 1st gear.
This is the wiring diagram my Haynes manual shows:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KRW...ew?usp=sharing
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Old 09-06-2019, 04:46 AM   #143
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jacoghi, im interested in the workaround for the 3500 rpm limit, can you send me the workaround for the wiring you found.?
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Old 09-06-2019, 02:47 PM   #144
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I just got most of the parts I need to do the swap from a local salvage yard for $371 out the door and I'm collecting the rest of what I need (new clutch, seals and right side CV axle).

My plan is to do the swap using the PCM and wire harness from the automatic to avoid the PCM and key reprogramming at the dealer. If this doesn't work out, I will go ahead and swap these with parts from the doner vehicle.

The wiring to get the car to start looks really straightforward but I have questions about dealing with all of the other remaining issues and am wondering if anyone who is taking the same approach has worked these out yet.

1. Can the 3500 RPM rev limit be addressed with a wiring change? If so, what does this entail.

2. I looked at a wiring diagram for the reversing lights and what happens is the reverse switch is connected to the PCM or the TCM (depending on whether it is the manual or automatic). When in reverse, a network signal is sent to the BCM where an internal (non-serviceable) relay closes and energizes the reversing lamps. So, it seems like you need to bypass all that and connect the reverse switch on the MT to an external relay tapped to the lamp wire connection coming out of the BCM (pin 19 for the 50-door, pin 20 for the 4-door). Is this the most straightforward way to do this?

3. Several posts in this thread talk about using a tune to alleviate some of the issues associated with using the auto PCM with a MT but I haven't seen a list of what the tune accomplishes. It would be nice to have this list along with another one that describes what must be done by wiring. Probably need another list for mods to do using Forscan or Focccus.

4. Is it also possible to get the ABS and cruise working with this type of swap?

5. Can any remaining DTCs be prevented? If so, how.

That's all I can think of for now. More questions may arise when I start swapping parts.

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I can remove the 3500 limiter with my Custom Tune on the DCT to 5sp swap

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