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Old 03-05-2019, 09:42 AM   #111
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Anyone that wants to test the TB then the hose them both on the dyno properly the dyno will be free and the test will be done correctly

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Can you just go away.... ive already said we will re-dyno this month, just to show more... it will be Stock TB, Large TB, Boot, add tune at end. You testing on your dyno makes it a biased test.... i use an unbiased dyno.... just because you showed no gains with or without tune, doesn't mean their aren't any

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Can you just go away.... ive already said we will re-dyno this month, just to show more... it will be Stock TB, Large TB, Boot, add tune at end. You testing on your dyno makes it a biased test.... i use an unbiased dyno.... just because you showed no gains with or without tune, doesn't mean their aren't any

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That mightíve been unnecessary. If he wants to dyno test for himself whatís the issue? Lmao Iíd rather see 2 separate dynos than one person claiming to make gains


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I find it ironic that Tom keeps calling out RDC on #'s... when he's vehemently against posting his own #'s.
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That mightíve been unnecessary. If he wants to dyno test for himself whatís the issue? Lmao Iíd rather see 2 separate dynos than one person claiming to make gains


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He already dyno'd the TB on a stock and modded setup, with no gains, ours was the 2nd.

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I find it ironic that Tom keeps calling out RDC on #'s... when he's vehemently against posting his own #'s.


You have to understand from toms point of view. You canít just go around throwing numbers and promising this is what youíll gain. Every car is different, and if rdc says Iíll grab 10 horse off it, so I buy it and install and only grab 1 horse, or worse, grab nothing, Iím gonna be pissed off. Because every car is different, you canít just say yes youíll gain x amount of power.


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Weíre talking about the hose not the tb?


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You have to understand from toms point of view. You canít just go around throwing numbers and promising this is what youíll gain. Every car is different, and if rdc says Iíll grab 10 horse off it, so I buy it and install and only grab 1 horse, or worse, grab nothing, Iím gonna be pissed off. Because every car is different, you canít just say yes youíll gain x amount of power.


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No you can't, you can give an avg gain. However, when we showed gains, he was very quick to ask for a datalog, knowing not everyone can read them, if ya ask me its to try to see what we changed, even though i said all that was changed was for the TB diameter and flow characteristics. He was also very quick to say it wasnt a valid dyno, even though in the initial post it says " TB with tune test"

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He said tb, then hose, but since his test showed no gain in TB, would be redundant. Hose is specifically made for TB

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Literally in all aspects of performance mods in cars and bikes there's usually a # associated with a part. We as consumers know these aren't hard #'s and that differences come into play. It's just nice to get an IDEA of what we're paying for.

Hell I assume Tom has regular customers on his dyno. If he posted the dyno results with a list of each customers mods that would at least give us a rough average.
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Can you just go away.... ive already said we will re-dyno this month, just to show more... it will be Stock TB, Large TB, Boot, add tune at end.
No I cant go away as much as you would like that

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You testing on your dyno makes it a biased test.... i use an unbiased dyno.... just because you showed no gains with or without tune, doesn't mean their aren't any
Lets talk about biased and unbiased , I dont sell the parts and I have no stake in the out come of the dyno gain or no gain and I own my dyno so we can take the 2-3 Hrs that this would take to properly test where am I biased ?

rdc sells the part biased , rdc needs to show the parts they sell make hp/tq or why would they be selling the performance parts biased , rdc pays the dyno shop to do what they want or need to to show to sell these parts biased

I can show you a straight up 10hp gain just from my focus power sticker put on the back window with no changes to the engine and I wont touch the car in any way , If you dont know how to do thisor how to properly run the dyno and knowing what to do to do proper back to back testing and its obvious you dont and your dyno guy let you do what you wanted

Now please tell me where I am biased and your not , who here has anything to gain from this ??? Only you , you have every reason in the world for it to show gains

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