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Old 11-10-2017, 11:50 PM   #31
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Tom, dumb question perhaps, but could this manifold be used with a stock ST turbo, or a adapter used to connect them? I was researching a hybrid engine with ST head and NA block but it's looking like motor would have to pulled to do that, so now Im thinking of running a poor mans turbo setup and then down the road, upgrading the turbo
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No way no how. The headifold-fed extended turbine housing on the ST turbo is integral to the unit and would have to be replaced. This expense would cost more than it's worth. Just buy a good manifold like Tom's and a standard inlet/outlet turbo in the size you'd want to end up with from the getgo.

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Tom, dumb question perhaps, but could this manifold be used with a stock ST turbo, or a adapter used to connect them? I was researching a hybrid engine with ST head and NA block but it's looking like motor would have to pulled to do that, so now Im thinking of running a poor mans turbo setup and then down the road, upgrading the turbo
With enough time , know how and money anything can be done but it would be MUCH easier and better to do a better Turbo

In my opinion the ST Turbo is way undersized

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No way no how. The headifold-fed extended turbine housing on the ST turbo is integral to the unit and would have to be replaced. This expense would cost more than it's worth. Just buy a good manifold like Tom's and a standard inlet/outlet turbo in the size you'd want to end up with from the getgo.

This elephant trunk looking POS right here...
How is the headifold going into that so much different then a log style or header style going into that, it's still just exhaust gasses...I already have that elephant as you put it, as well as a bunch of other ST parts I aquired for very cheap so I am looking at trying a turbo system..is the stock ST turbo the best choice, of course not but with a better downpipe and other mods, and good tuning it can be a lot better...on the NA motor it's going to running a lot less boost and tuning will have to be spot-on.
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How is the headifold going into that so much different then a log style or header style going into that, it's still just exhaust gasses...I already have that elephant as you put it, as well as a bunch of other ST parts I aquired for very cheap so I am looking at trying a turbo system..is the stock ST turbo the best choice, of course not but with a better downpipe and other mods, and good tuning it can be a lot better...on the NA motor it's going to running a lot less boost and tuning will have to be spot-on.
How are you going to attach the ST turbo to the NA block?

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How are you going to attach the ST turbo to the NA block?

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ZOMG I BAWT A ST TURBSKI AND IT WILL BE AWSUM!

(hint, when the turbo makes 225whp at 21psi in factory trim, at the 6-8 psi on an N/A car, it won't move as much air as NOT having it in there, restricting your exhaust and making everything more hot and convoluted)

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ZOMG I BAWT A ST TURBSKI AND IT WILL BE AWSUM!

(hint, when the turbo makes 225whp at 21psi in factory trim, at the 6-8 psi on an N/A car, it won't move as much air as NOT having it in there, restricting your exhaust and making everything more hot and convoluted)

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Except that the NA has a much better head and way more compression. It won't be as good as Tom's kit but it could be a cheap sloppy solution. If you have any fabrication skills it would be an option.
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Except that the NA has a much better head and way more compression. It won't be as good as Tom's kit but it could be a cheap sloppy solution. If you have any fabrication skills it would be an option.
Making this even more ridiculous, as the head is not the major restriction on the ST either! It's the TURBO.

Zero chance his downfacing manifold with work with the ST turbo without spending more than the used turbo iteself to purchase a usable exhaust housing.

His manifold will cost $500+. No sane person will spend that kind of money to put the highly restrictivee, ill-fitting stock ST turbo on an NA Focus.
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I didn't say you could use Tom's manifold, I said his kit would be better. You would have to make a short log manifold to use the ST turbo.
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