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Old 05-24-2016, 06:37 PM   #51
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100% add the 180 its well worth it , people think that when you install a 180 thermostat that its going to run at 180 , it isnt more in the 188-196 range right where it needs to be to both burn off anything that needed to be burned off and to still keep the engine out of the 210-230 range where it runs now

The 192-196 stock thermostat is mostly used for emissions , Federal rules mandate a given time for the CAT to fire off and many do this by low timing and high thermostat to reach there goals in that given federal time period

In my opinion if your do any mods to your engine then do the 180 thermostat , safer engine and more performance from it

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Will the 180* thermostat hold temps in the 188-196 without a tune though?
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Nope.

It'll tend to run up to the normal fan controlled temps, except when rather cold when it could drop to the thermostat temp. Slower warm up to temp as Tom mentioned.

More range to the temps that way, which isn't good. Lower range in temps while running is better, with tuning (factory or otherwise) to match.

You could easily end up with a "code" for running too cool/not warming up fast enough.
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The warm up time to about 185-190 will be just as fast as the stock thermostat , you just wont be seeing the high temps in the 210-235 range any more and for a performance use you dont want to

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Can't wait to get mine done. Still sitting in buddy's garage. Tom I also likely remove active shutters. ... anything need to pay attention to?
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Tom - only with your tune though, as without it the temps could still rise to the std. settings.

Initial warmup wouldn't change up to initial opening temps at least, above that it would be a bit slower until fans do their thing when warm enough for them.

I was just advising this for WITH your tune as a mod., doubt it would be good by itself.
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Yes , if you dont have a tune dont do a 180 deg thermostat , just changing the fans with a tune helps a lot but not as much as a tune and 180 Deg thermostat

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You dont have to remove the shutters I can adjust them and if you have my tune there already adjusted

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^^^ correct me if I'm wrong here sailor, but what you're saying is that the stock tune won't work in conjunction with the 180* stat, right? The 180* will do its job, but the ECU will override it by keeping the shutters closed, fans off, etc. to keep the temp where its programmed to... ???
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You dont have to remove the shutters I can adjust them and if you have my tune there already adjusted

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Oh ok it's actually more of an aesthetic mod I might be doing.... will it kill performance
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^^^ correct me if I'm wrong here sailor, but what you're saying is that the stock tune won't work in conjunction with the 180* stat, right? The 180* will do its job, but the ECU will override it by keeping the shutters closed, fans off, etc. to keep the temp where its programmed to... ???
That's what it'll tend to do, so it's a good mod IF you do the tune but not without one. They work as a pair, and the tune would be first on the list in order of priorities. You can add the thermostat to help the tune change reg. temp range later, but not a great idea to do the thermostat first.
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