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Old 08-27-2019, 01:30 PM   #11
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copper-Nickle looks like its the best "new" material to use for life long use.

https://www.copper.org/applications/...ube/brake.html

https://www.copper.org/applications/...ube/brake.html

But dont think the SS would have the problems you discuss but don't have any knowledge of that. The fact that Dorman and Summit and others sell stainless steel line stock and also prebent line for OEM replacement also would lead me to belive its safe replacement. the flaring is a bit more difficult to get right from what I have quickly read.
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Old 08-27-2019, 05:29 PM   #12
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the flaring is a bit more difficult to get right from what I have quickly read.
Flaring stainless brake lines is a bugger. It takes more force and the stainless wants to split, in my experience. Maybe with a hydraulic flaring tool, it would go better. Maybe.
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Flaring stainless brake lines is a bugger. It takes more force and the stainless wants to split, in my experience. Maybe with a hydraulic flaring tool, it would go better. Maybe.
Again no actual experience on my end with SS hard lines. but the descriptions do recommend having a professional do the flair. Some also specify that the SS hard lines are annealed multiple times to aid in the flaring and reduce the splitting. so what you say makes sense and someone like me who has flared a total of 6 fittings on steel line is likely not up to the task. (Thatís where the SStubes would be nice since they are bent and flared by professionals, however some have reported that depending on year the bends, trim and body type the bends may not be accurate)

But per my limited Google searching if you want to do the brake lines and never worry about them again and have easier flange making the copper nickel appears to be the way to go. donít know about cost on any of these.
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Still working on this job. Needed a 3/16" 51" bubble flared tube with a bubble flare union....driver's side. A 40" tube and union of same type for pass side.

Getting them bent and routed is a bear...but doable. Did not try to duplicate the OEM bends...just minimum bends needed to hit mounting tabs.

Needed to remove resonator and heat shield to get to the line...driver's side. Will replace resonator with a length of ss flex pipe...stuff lasts forever. Will hang using OEM rubber mounts and thin bar stock and clamps. Pass side involves getting under the fuel filter to get to the line....can remove enough mounting points to get to it.

All other steel lines look OK...with only light rust even near wheels.

All I can say is if you have this gen of Focus (2003)...take a look...might not be so purty... Unexpected. Job not for the faint of heart.

Due to the supposed split system there were minimal brakes left...but probably not enough to stop in an emergency.

Complain all you want about the weak rear drums...the brakes on this car are typically damned good....well balanced.
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