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Old 05-18-2016, 10:08 AM   #11
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This looks like an awesome kit and your install looks very well done.
What brake fluid did you use for the new system?
Hey Ė thanks for the comment, and welcome to the forum.

The brake fluid is nothing special Ė Prestone DOT 3. There is more performance-oriented stuff out there but I didnít feel the need for it, since the most extreme driving I plan on doing is autocross. If you regularly attend track days where the brakes are used frequently and heavily, then I would use something else with a higher boiling point for safety.
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Do you see any need to upgrade anything else from stock in the braking system?
The only stock components remaining are the master cylinder and the brake hard lines running along the vehicleís underbody to the flex lines. The stock master cylinder performs fine with this kit despite the higher fluid demand, even when applying the brakes hard. I donít see a need to upgrade. As for the hard lines Ė my car is 15 years old now and was Canadian-winter driven up until this past winter. So the lines are rusty and prone to breaking, especially at the unions with the flex lines. I will have to replace them at some point, but only because of wear and tear, not because of the new brake setup.
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Do you have any concerns with the strength of the front rotors due to the new bolt holes?
You bring up a good point. I can see why youíd be concerned, given how close the 4x108 bores are to the Mustang bores. However, when placed onto the hub, the rotor sits fairly snug with minimal play Ė similar to how a stock rotor sits. And I havenít felt any vibration through the pedal or heard any unusual sounds. Your point is still valid though, especially if you plan on attending track days. After Iíve put more mileage on the setup, I will inspect the rotors for any scarring or excessive wear around the 4x108 bores and post an update. Iím not expecting anything though.
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If you were to run your EAP wheels, what sort of problems are you worried about? I ask because this setup is something I am interested in pursuing.
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I simply feel uneasy with how close the barrels of the EAP wheels are to the front calipers. I sold the wheels because of this. I am not exaggerating when I say that there are only a few millimeters of clearance. If any little thing goes wrong (i.e. lug nuts not torqued properly, slightly bent wheel), the caliper is going to drag on the wheel and you are going to have a bad day. My other wheels are also 17x7 +42, but they have more clearance somehow (Team Dynamics Pro Race 3).
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Old 05-18-2016, 10:16 AM   #12
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Thats nice write up. I saw this kit and was wondering is it worth the money.
Hi, thanks for the comment. You have an SVT, so you obviously donít need the rear kit. The front kit is still an upgrade from stock SVT, but I donít know by how much. Performance-oriented pads and rotors on your stock setup would give you more stopping power and less fade for less money and way less work, but to the same extent as this Massive setup? Who knows? Iíd say try that first, and if youíre still not satisfied with how it stops, then consider the Massive setup. For owners of plain old MK1s like me though, itís unquestionably an upgrade.
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Love it. Dont think the front kit is in the cards but I will be buying the rear at some point in time.

Thoughts on machining the rotors: those brakes need an 18" wheel on the mustang. Im not aware of a 17 that fits. Id imagine they scalp a little off the rotor and use their bracket to pull the caliper in just enough to use a 17"
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Old 06-02-2016, 08:08 AM   #14
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Love it. Dont think the front kit is in the cards but I will be buying the rear at some point in time.

Thoughts on machining the rotors: those brakes need an 18" wheel on the mustang. Im not aware of a 17 that fits. Id imagine they scalp a little off the rotor and use their bracket to pull the caliper in just enough to use a 17"
Makes sense! That's probably the reason, since 17" is typically the biggest wheel used on MK1.
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I see the kit for the front are using pin guided calipers vs pad guided ones such as the '94-'04 cobra's/c-4's use. Could explain a little more clearance w/ my 6-spokes.
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Think i will plan on getting this front kit.
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say... Cobra Rotor.... GT Calipers.

They likely had to machine down the rotor due to some interference that keeps the two non compatible in factory form.
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say... Cobra Rotor.... GT Calipers.

They likely had to machine down the rotor due to some interference that keeps the two non compatible in factory form.
Its actually a '12+ gt rotor as Ford upgraded the gt rotor size. Really a great option for a easy to get parts BBK. Baer or Wilwood should be able to make up a pr of hats for 2 piece rotors, as they have the 13'' rotors which they use in a bunch of their brake kits.
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