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Old 09-11-2019, 01:23 PM   #1
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Ceramic Coating

I got a new car and my first ritual is to wash and wax it but I have been seeing ads for ceramic coatings instead of wax. Is that a better idea? If it will protect and shine for a year or more and easy to clean does that make it better than wax? One downside is that if you later on want to add a second coat or even add wax the ceramic coating won't allow it. Which way to go? Is more coats of wax at a time good enough?

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Ceramic is great, but requires a lot of prep before you apply it. Paint correction, surface decontamination, etc, and the cure time is typically several hours.

There are coatings you can put over ceramic coatings to make them last longer, but you're right - you can't simply 'wax' a ceramic coated vehicle.

Wax is very old school. If you can't afford the real ceramic coating process (or don't have time to do it) You have a lot of options in SiO2 coatings. Much stronger than wax and in most cases easier to apply. Meguiars has an entry-level product that is a spray. They market it as "ceramic" but it's an SiO2 coating.

Everybody's got some version of it now. Adam's, Griot's, Chemical Guys, etc etc etc.
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I ceramic coated my 2010 myself and I highly recommend it. The finished product is beautiful, washes very well, and repels water nicely.


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I'll study up on coatings to get a better idea of what's it all about. I know I need to clay bar first. At my age I want the best results possible and may consider having someone do it for me.

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At my age I want the best results possible and may consider having someone do it for me.
That's a good idea. Ceramic is "permanent" so any flaws that exist before you coat it, will be there until the coating is gone/removed.
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Chemical Guys just came out with a SiO 2 wax... so dont need the prep work before, but also does not last as long.
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That's a good idea. Ceramic is "permanent" so any flaws that exist before you coat it, will be there until the coating is gone/removed.
I'm afraid that I might get too wrapped up in the process that I might do something wrong and when you start counting dollars and cents it's better to just let someone else do it. Think of the hours it might take me plus the uncertain whether conditions. I noticed that the detail shops offer a variety of packages until you get to a 5-years or lifetime guarantee so then a decision has to be made on "how much for how long".

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I'm afraid that I might get too wrapped up in the process that I might do something wrong and when you start counting dollars and cents it's better to just let someone else do it. Think of the hours it might take me plus the uncertain whether conditions. I noticed that the detail shops offer a variety of packages until you get to a 5-years or lifetime guarantee so then a decision has to be made on "how much for how long".

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Chemical Guys has 3 versions of a "ceramic".

C9 which is a 3+ years coating. Hydro Charge a spray thats a 1 year lasting and now the wax.

For the C9 and the Hydro Charge you should at minimum wash and claybar. Depending on the paint you may want to do some paint correction with cutting and polishing compounds. If the quality of the paint is fine for you after the wash and claybar then its just applying the product.

The expensive stuff is getting the swirls or the paint correction completed before the ceramic product gets applied. Then depending on the care their after with the correct types of washes and such will determine how long it will last.
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Chemical Guys has 3 versions of a "ceramic".

C9 which is a 3+ years coating. Hydro Charge a spray thats a 1 year lasting and now the wax.

For the C9 and the Hydro Charge you should at minimum wash and claybar. Depending on the paint you may want to do some paint correction with cutting and polishing compounds. If the quality of the paint is fine for you after the wash and claybar then its just applying the product.

The expensive stuff is getting the swirls or the paint correction completed before the ceramic product gets applied. Then depending on the care their after with the correct types of washes and such will determine how long it will last.
I'm game for doing it my self. I have some leftover claybar and I don't have to do all in one shot-hood here, top there and fenders and tires. I really want to make sure I put on the best quality and as many coats as I can before it starts repelling everything.

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My thoughts to ceramic coatings= great for ppl that don't want to deal w/ waxes/sealants, the vehicle is outside & want a very low maintenance product. You'll never get it to pop as a pure polish.... http://autogeek.com
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