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Old 08-20-2014, 07:21 PM   #51
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Yep like I have always said , It takes parts working together not just parts

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I was worried about the direction this thread was going in.

It seems to have evened itself out now.
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Me too lol
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This 'I have $50' approach just doesn't work for the zetec. It must be dealt with in lumps. But try telling that to a kid looking to blow his college loan money on upgrades ...
id rather not be talked down to like that... ive been building this car for 3 years now.

i dont have the money to buy everything in lumps. sorry im 19 and putting school first.
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Don't worry about it, it took me 9 yrs to get everything done to my other focus. Ended up getting another one and I'm ready to rebuild the old one since it's getting up there inn age.
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Old 08-21-2014, 03:07 AM   #56
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id rather not be talked down to like that... ive been building this car for 3 years now.

i dont have the money to buy everything in lumps. sorry im 19 and putting school first.

It wasn't directed at you. It's simply a generalized statement.
If you've been internet for as long as I have you see that when people ask about 'cheap parts' they more than often are college kids spending loan money. Hell, I've even seem many say exactly that.

I'm not saying that buying over time is wrong. Just that doing so and expecting immediate results is wrong. If you have the patients to build over time, you should also have to see results after all parts have been purchased. This is where a goal plays in ... and a good many of us tell people to set a goal and work/purchase towards that goal.


BTW, IMHO, cams are about the only worthwhile mod for the car. They are the single most limiting factor in making more power and the most commonly neglected.
Are they worth the money, yes, every penny.
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I once had an (mild) edelbrock cam/intake paired combination installed on my 83 mustang, made a great improvement.
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Old 08-21-2014, 10:26 AM   #58
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Interesting post. So I don't think there was ever an answer to Tom's question about dialing in the cams....

That is an absolute minimum for installing aftermarket cams. Adjustable cam gears can make the final tweaks on a dyno if you want to take it to the next level. IMO if you have to make adjustments with the cam gears far off from the dialed in positions you have the wrong cams for the engine.
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The problem with that is the wiggle room that is or can be present in the setting of even stock timing makes adjustable greats great on stock cams, and are even more needed when going with aftermarket.
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Interesting post. So I don't think there was ever an answer to Tom's question about dialing in the cams....

That is an absolute minimum for installing aftermarket cams. Adjustable cam gears can make the final tweaks on a dyno if you want to take it to the next level. IMO if you have to make adjustments with the cam gears far off from the dialed in positions you have the wrong cams for the engine.
Thats the I think too. Could be more so w/ zetec's but on v/8's its best to get cams for the intended use.
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