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Old 10-29-2012, 10:19 AM   #1
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Tire recommendation for 2012 Focus SE Sport Package 16"

I have a 2012 Focus SE Sport Package with 16" wheels and 5-speed. I love the car and especially the ride and handling, but think the ContiProContact tires could use a bit more grip. I do not push the car hard but I get the sense that wet and dry traction could be better.

I'd like a tire that improves handling while still providing as quiet and smooth a ride as possible. I just got a set of Blizzaks for winter so it does not have to be an all-season tire. When the Blizzaks come off I may put on a better tire and ditch the ContiProContacts. I'd like to maintain as much of the fuel economy as possible. I know low rolling resistance, sharp handling, good wet and dry traction and a smooth, quiet ride are almost mutually exclusive but think there must be something out there that will improve the handling while keeping things smooth and quiet. Tire wear and cost are of econdary importance. As long as it is rated at 300 or better treadwear I am ok with that and I don't think any of the tires are extremely expensive.

I am leaning towards the Continental DWS but am looking for other tires to consider. Any recommendations?


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Old 10-29-2012, 10:32 AM   #2
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General G-Max AS-03... $103/tire on TireRack

Super quiet on the highway and they stick... Being All seasons they aren't perfect but will withstand more. Haven't gotten mine to squeal yet during my spirited driving.
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:08 AM   #3
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I do not understand why folks do not just go to Tire Rack (no affiliation, just a happy customer) and do the searches they have set up. Finding any sort of tire for whatever wanted qualities could not be easier.
The reviews are just as good, being from customers who have bought the tires in question.
Way way better than a few answers here.
Just my opinion.
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I have been to The Tire Rack and that is where I came up with the Conti DWS idea, though I am not 100% sold. That said, I am looking for real-world experience on my specific car, and I figured this is the best place to get that info. The General was not a tire I considered so I am already getting useful information.

You said you do not know why people post questions like mine. Now
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I have shredded the Conti's on my 2012 SEL with 17's and I had narrowed my search down to the Kumho Ecsta 4Xhttp://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....wtpackage=true and the Bridgestone Potenza http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....wtpackage=true
The have treadwear ratings of 400 and 420 and the Tire Rack testers seem to like both, not sure if available in your size. I think I am going with the Potenza's as Costco should have $70 off of Bridgestone's in November. Otherwise I was going to go with the lesser expensive Kumho's.
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These tend to be the most commonly recommended all season tires (list was compiled by Gavin, Tirerack Sales Consultant on GTI forum). All can be found at Tirerack and many of them are offered in most wheel sizes.

Please note that hardly any of these tires are close to the DWS from a snow handling standpoint, but then again, the DWS is still well behind a dedicated snow tire with regards to foul weather performance. And because many of them are high performance all-seasons, they may sacrifice some mileage (wear) as a tradeoff:

"Inexpensive performance all-season:
General G-Max AS-03 (New-ish tire this year. So far so good)
Kumho Ecsta 4X (New-ish tire this year. So-far so good)
Sumitomo HTR A/S P01 (Decent tire, a little sketchy with cold)

Premium performance all-season:
Bridgestone Potenza RE970AS Pole Position (Fantastic tire!)
Continental Extreme Contact DWS (A little soft in the sides, but good cold grip.)
Michelin Pilot Sport AS+ (Very refined ride quality.)

Touring all-season tires will offer decent year-round grip. They are comfort oriented and offer better lifespan. They too are a compromise in performance. I tend to recommend more touring tires to Golfs than GTI's

Inexpensive touring all-season:
General Altimax HP (Best bang for the buck.)
Kumho Ecsta LX Platinum

Premium touring all-season:
Michelin Primacy MXM4 (Good ride quality without sacrificing handling too much.)
Bridgestone Turanza Serenity (The best riding tire, but a little disconnected feeling with the road.)"
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Old 10-29-2012, 04:01 PM   #7
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Summer tire recommendations from our friends at Tirerack:

"Extreme performance summer tires will suit your needs if you're looking for all-out handling, taking your daily driver autocrossing on the weekend without an extra set of wheels, or just hooning on the street. Do not consider this category if you're looking to use the tires in near freezing temperatures, need a tire that is comfort-oriented, want a tire with a 15k mile lifespan, or for driving at high speeds in deep standing water.

Inexpensive extreme performance summer:

Hankook Ventus R-S3 (best bang for the buck)
Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec (very versatile)

Premium extreme performance summer:

Yokohama ADVAN Neova AD-08 (very versatile)
Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 (best riding tire in its class)

Max and ultra high performance summer tires will suit your needs if you're wanting a little better ride quality, little better lifespan, and better wet grip than an extreme performance summer tire. They too are not intended to be driven in near freezing temps, and offer a shorter life than an all-season tire.

Inexpensive max and ultra high performance summer:

Continental Extreme Contact DW (best bang for the buck)
Sumitomo HTR Z III
Hankook Ventus V12 Evo
Yokohama S.Drive

Premium max and ultra high performance summer:

Michelin Pilot Super Sport
Bridgestone Potenza S-04 Pole Position
Dunlop SP Sport Maxx TT
Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sport"
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The Yoki AD-08's can get sketchy in more than light rain... May be a bit different on a heavier car but on a Lotus you can start hydroplaning
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"Premium touring all-season:
Michelin Primacy MXM4"

This.

I have the black/machined 17s as well as the default SE package split spoke 16s. Sold the Contis off my 16s, went to get P4s and the guy was like take a look at these. Went home, did some research, everyone that had them loved them. all the reviews were 8.5/10 or better. Now I'm going to dump the 17" Contis as well and get another set. The Kumhos on my 2010 SES were the worst I've ever had. less than 500 miles they were on CL.
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The Kumhos on my 2010 SES were the worst I've ever had. less than 500 miles they were on CL.[/QUOTE]

What model Kumhos did you have? Like any tire company they have good tires and not so good tires. Specificity is helpful in this case.
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