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Old 02-26-2009, 11:14 PM   #1
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Alignment suggestions now??

well after doing all the new suspension stuff i went to get an alignment done, and thankful i bought the lifetime alignment about 3 months ago, but any way after getting the alignment done the steering wheel still sits between 10 and 11 o'clock on a flat road......? the tech (kid) said that was a characteristic of a lowered car to have it pull...... i don't think so, i have had a 93 mustang cobra with a 1.5 drop and it tracks perfect everytime i drive.... WTF here are the specs (and i am puttin in the rear camber bolts 2marow and taking it back) and yes after installing the camber kit in front and aligning by eye my numbers were damn close!!! :)






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and i dont know why he used the 2005 wagon settings but its a ZX3, i should point that one out to him..
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rear toe should be as close to 0 (the minimum spec) as possible and front toe should be at 0 as well, or slightly toe'd out

I would also suggest camber bolts to bring your rear camber down to at least -1.5 or even as far as -1.0
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yea i am doing camber bolts 2marow, but i was just looking at the numbers, would having one side toe + and one - affect where my steering wheel is?? hmmmm i wonder.....
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no he probably just printed it off with the steering wheel not perfectly level

your cross toe is only .02 which is damn near perfect
i run my rear toe at 0 and my front to at max allowable out

it can get twitchy on the e-way but handles amazing and as long as you keep your hands at 10 and 2 you won't have any problems with it wandering
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rear toe should be as close to 0 (the minimum spec) as possible and front toe should be at 0 as well, or slightly toe'd out

I would also suggest camber bolts to bring your rear camber down to at least -1.5 or even as far as -1.0
Completely agree about the toe (unless you trying to autoX her). As for the camber, I would normally agree as well. However, many FWD vehicles prescribe slightly more than normal neg. camber for fuel economy reasons. Additionally, I don't believe there is much camber gain in bump on our rear suspensions. So, as long as rear toe is pretty close to 0, -1.5deg camber should be fine in the rear.

The most common reason for your steering wheel not being @ 12 when your driving down the road is due to your steering rack not being centered when the guy is doing the alignment. So, either the guy is just lazy and doesn't want to take the time to make it right, or he really doesn't know what the problem is. While its really not an issue for tire wear or performance, if it really bothers you, it can be fixed. Lastly, the closer they get the net toe to 0, the better your fuel eco. and tire wear will be. GL.
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Completely agree about the toe (unless you trying to autoX her). As for the camber, I would normally agree as well. However, many FWD vehicles prescribe slightly more than normal neg. camber for fuel economy reasons. Additionally, I don't believe there is much camber gain in bump on our rear suspensions. So, as long as rear toe is pretty close to 0, -1.5deg camber should be fine in the rear.

The most common reason for your steering wheel not being @ 12 when your driving down the road is due to your steering rack not being centered when the guy is doing the alignment. So, either the guy is just lazy and doesn't want to take the time to make it right, or he really doesn't know what the problem is. While its really not an issue for tire wear or performance, if it really bothers you, it can be fixed. Lastly, the closer they get the net toe to 0, the better your fuel eco. and tire wear will be. GL.
I've had my front to at .1 out in the front and at 0 in the rear for the past 40000 miles and i align it at least once a month and i have never had any issues with odd tire wear

i got 25k out of my OE tires which is fair
I've got 30k on my winter tires (indy 500's and they are 50k tires they still have 50% tread life)
I've got 10k on my 960 pole positions and they are only showing some slight feathering from me beating the crap out of them
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I've had my front to at .1 out in the front and at 0 in the rear for the past 40000 miles and i align it at least once a month and i have never had any issues with odd tire wear

i got 25k out of my OE tires which is fair
I've got 30k on my winter tires (indy 500's and they are 50k tires they still have 50% tread life)
I've got 10k on my 960 pole positions and they are only showing some slight feathering from me beating the crap out of them
It seems like your agreeing with me?
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ya i am

the big tire wearing thing on our cars is that ford gives an excessivly large area to set the rear toe

and most people just set it in the middle and that's still 1/4 degree off of where the best spot it.
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Sit in your car while he changes the alignment. Try to have something close to this. front -0.03 rear 0.03. Thats what mine is and I love it.
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